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FYI: The Steel City 35990C and 35990G (for those who missed the Ridgid R4511)

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Forum topic by knotscott posted 12-15-2010 01:26 AM 7053 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12-15-2010 01:26 AM

FYI – Steel City has a hybrid/new era contractor saw out….the 35590C and 35990G. Steel City/Orion manufactured the Ridgid R4511 and the Craftsman 22116…this one appears to be very similar to the former R4511 but offers a cast iron top instead of the granite top. They do offer an optional 35990G with a granite top for an additional $80 if that’s what you want. Both have cabinet mounted trunnions, enclosed belt drive induction motor, steel t-square style fence, riving knife, and a built in mobile base. Amazon has them for $600 and $680 shipped.

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#1 posted 12-15-2010 03:15 AM

I’d seen pics of it in the mags, but today was the first time I’d seen it for sale anywhere. It’d be nice if there was a reasonably priced fence upgrade for it.

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#2 posted 12-15-2010 12:13 PM

You guys are so lucky in the States in Europe legislation spoilt our choices Here in the UK you cant buy saws that will take a dado head because the law states every new machine has to be braked & that could unscrew the arbor nut with the weight of a dado set. Anything decent with cast iron starts at around $1800 here think I’ll emigrate $600 dollars is for nothing

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#3 posted 12-15-2010 02:10 PM

“Whats wrong with the stock fence ? Wouldn’t a Delta T2 fence work ?”

The stock fence uses a split front rail, which isn’t ideal…I”m not crazy about the handle either, or the fact that there are no faces on it. It seems like a functional fence as entry level fences go, but it lags behind the Biese, Exacta, Shop Fox Classic, Vega, and even the Delta T2 IMO…I just thought it would be nice if they offered their Industrial fence as a reasonably priced option. The T2 would be an upgrade IMO, but at a cost of at least $156.49 (minus whatever you can sell the stock fence for), plus the whole DIY process is more of a hassle than having it be an option from them. I agree it should be called a hybrid…I’d think it’d be a better marketing term too.

tdv – Yeah…I suppose we do take it for granted, as it’s what we’re accustomed to. Thanks for the reality check!

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#4 posted 12-15-2010 09:00 PM

I’m guessing they’re thinking they had the manufacturing capability and that HD actually sold quite a few of the Ridgid R4511, and aside from the multitudes that HD damaged from double stacking them, the saw (and even the fence) were fairly well received. So they’ve offered a cast iron version with the same guts and same fence at the same price….it’s just harder to find. I’d guess that the cast iron will be even better received than the granite.

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#5 posted 12-15-2010 09:34 PM

My question is how will sales be affected by people’s mindset. Once someone has it in their head that they could have had this saw for $300, it can be tough to get people to pay the more realistic price again (even if it is still a good deal at that price). Just curious how others will apprach this. I’m not allowed to get a new saw for a few more years myself so jobsite saw it is for me. (-:

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#6 posted 12-16-2010 01:18 AM

Look at the alternatives in this price range… I was lucky to get an R4511, not at the ridiculusly low price, but discounted from the origional… I’m extremely happy with the saw, especially when I walk by the saw displays that show the saws that I almost bit on…

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#7 posted 12-16-2010 01:32 AM

I was thinking the same thing as iamwelty. What else do you get for < $600….a R4512 with steel wings, nearly identical Craftsman 21833 both with some mixed reviews, and an new unproven Porter Cable PCB270TS also with steel wings. The 35990C might not be perfect, but if I were looking for new saws in this price range, I think I’d have this one on my short list.

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#8 posted 12-16-2010 03:03 AM

We run the R4511 and the TS3660 in our small cabinet shop. I much prefer the TS3660. Seems to be a better saw in my opinion. The R4511 does have a few advantages though. We utilize the 4511 more then the 3660 because I set the 4511 up to cut solid wood and the 3660 to cut plywood and we tend to cut more solid wood. I don’t like the fence and I don’t like the granite top, those are the two biggest detractors. Many a time I have needed to use my magswitch but could not. I hate the fence and wish to upgrade it some day.

The stock fence on the 3660 is great, I pushed the stock fence as far to the right as I could and we cross cut around 42” with the stock fence, which is plenty.

Oh well, we cannot complain from a price point since we paid 300.00 for the 4511 and will likely sell it for that or more whenever we are able to upgrade to a true cabinet saw.

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