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Forum topic by bruce317 posted 06-28-2017 06:12 PM 798 views 0 times favorited 27 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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bruce317

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06-28-2017 06:12 PM

I bought & set up a HF saw blade sharper. Just like Ghostses on u tube did. Seams like everyone is buying , setting up, & sharping on first try. All I’m getting is smoke. I made my living working on machines. Just can’t seam to get handle on this. Been using for three weeks now.
Sure it’s me, but I’ve watched all the u tube video’s I could find over & over.
Thanks

-- Bruce - Indiana - Sawdust is just, MAN GLITTER!


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#1 posted 06-28-2017 08:08 PM

What quality stone do you use?

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#2 posted 06-28-2017 09:45 PM

180 grit diamond that came with it. Guessing same one they use in U tube video’s?

-- Bruce - Indiana - Sawdust is just, MAN GLITTER!

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#3 posted 06-28-2017 10:56 PM

I take my blades in ..not even gonna try sharpening ...for 8 bucks and a week cant beat it …IMO :<))

-- Tony Reinholds,Pa. REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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#4 posted 06-28-2017 11:23 PM



I take my blades in ..not even gonna try sharpening ...for 8 bucks and a week cant beat it …IMO :<))

- GR8HUNTER

Tony, I live in a small city. Haven’t found place to take them. Read good reviews on HF sharper. If it worked for others, then it should work for me. At last, all I’m getting right now, is SMOKE. Sure it’s my fault, some how.

-- Bruce - Indiana - Sawdust is just, MAN GLITTER!

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#5 posted 06-29-2017 03:01 AM

do you think it is turning to fast?? ...are you getting black marks on teeth ?? ...that would ruin the temper of the blade

maybe he can help you out
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/2818

-- Tony Reinholds,Pa. REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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bruce317

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#6 posted 06-29-2017 04:09 AM


do you think it is turning to fast?? ...are you getting black marks on teeth ?? ...that would ruin the temper of the blade

maybe he can help you out
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/2818

- GR8HUNTER


Tony, Thanks! The first two answers are no.The ” Maybe he can help” Is a excellent ideal.

-- Bruce - Indiana - Sawdust is just, MAN GLITTER!

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#7 posted 06-29-2017 06:27 AM



do you think it is turning to fast?? ...are you getting black marks on teeth ?? ...that would ruin the temper of the blade

maybe he can help you out
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/2818

- GR8HUNTER

This machine is made for sharpening TC (Tungsten carbide) sawblades. If it isn.t a TC blade sharpeninng isn’t possible with mentioned stone. I never have seen black spots on a TC teeth, and I have seen a lot. A TC teeth isn’t tempered. TC is made by pressing.

Bruce can you make some pictures of the blade and post it here.

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#8 posted 06-29-2017 12:11 PM

I tried and and immediately took it back because it simply does not work. Youtube has a few “how to tune your HF saw sharpener” if you are willing to spend the time to modify the darn thing.

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#9 posted 06-29-2017 12:35 PM

I have that sharpener. I bought it because I have several mid-grade blades that cost too much to replace when dull but are too cheap to justify sending out for sharpening. It definitely took me a while to get the sharpener “tuned” but it does pretty well now. Well enough that it extends the life of my blades enough to justify its cost.

One thing that might help, are you indexing the blade then pulling the wheel across the face? If so, I never got it to work that way. The sliding mechanisms just aren’t rigid or precise enough. Instead, I pull the wheel in front of the tooth then turn the tooth into the blade, hold it for a second then on to the next tooth.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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GR8HUNTER

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#10 posted 06-29-2017 01:17 PM


One thing that might help, are you indexing the blade then pulling the wheel across the face? If so, I never got it to work that way. The sliding mechanisms just aren t rigid or precise enough. Instead, I pull the wheel in front of the tooth then turn the tooth into the blade, hold it for a second then on to the next tooth.

- HokieKen

hope this works for you :<))

-- Tony Reinholds,Pa. REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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bruce317

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#11 posted 06-29-2017 04:21 PM

Thank you everyone.
Reset the machine. Going to doctor appointment, now. Going to try Kenny’s way. Blade to wheel, Not wheel to blade.

-- Bruce - Indiana - Sawdust is just, MAN GLITTER!

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#12 posted 06-29-2017 05:04 PM

I have a Foley carbide grinder that cost around $2000. It works great. I don’t know how one can compare that with a HF machine. When sharpening on the Foley, the tooth is fed into the diamond wheel and only a very tiny amount of carbide is ground. Pressing too hard will shorten the life of the wheel (they cost about $150) and also the carbide. I used to sharpen saws years back for a side line after retiring, but now I do it exclusively for myself and a few friends. Like anything, it takes practice to get it right. I was thinking about getting a HF sharpener just to compare it with a “real” carbide sharpener, but I have better uses for my money.

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#13 posted 06-29-2017 05:46 PM

Yeah, don’t bother with that comparison MrRon. It’s kinda like comparing a Corvette to a Pinto. ;-P

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#14 posted 06-29-2017 09:05 PM

Hmm, i used to know a guy who specialized in hot rodding Pintos. Maybe the HF can be hot rodded, lol.

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#15 posted 06-29-2017 09:19 PM

I tried it Kenny way. That way worked best for me. I got one blade to burn it’s way through a 2×4. Which is better that I’ve done. Never got through 2×4 before, saw felt unsafe. Now I have both blades with carbide, even with the steel. So gone as far as I can. Might try painting a picture on the blades? Before I screw up the 10” blades. Been messing up 7 1/4” blades. Going to take a brake & think about this. Thanks to all of you, I believe I’m making a head way. Cause I did burn my way through a 2×4.

-- Bruce - Indiana - Sawdust is just, MAN GLITTER!

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