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Forum topic by wmacky posted 06-26-2017 03:13 PM 705 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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wmacky

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06-26-2017 03:13 PM

I seem to be having quite a bad time purchasing power tools lately! I just got through buying fully assembling / tuning and then returning a Delta table saw to lowes a couple weeks ago due to arbor shaft run-out. I’m not a wood worker, but I do a lot of hobby stuff, and decided to just get a refund instead of a replacement as it was a Little overboard for hobby use.

On to this weekend. I found myself in need of straight holes once again. Now a drill press is something I could use more often. I didn’t need a Jet, or Rockwell as again this is just for small hobby stuff. I looked at the harbor freight bench tops, as I thought they would be fine for my occasional use. I even had the 8” model in a cart with a $54 coupon in hand. I was however disappointed that the switched from cast iron parts to steel. At the last minute I left and went to sears.

I really liked the Craftsman 12” benchtop. It looked much nicer, so I stretched a little more and took it home. and started assembly. Right away I hit a snag as one of the mount holes in the base was never threaded! After a 2 hour round trip back to Sears they swapped it out with the last unit, and I returned home. Now I wish I had swapped the whole thing as this one has lots of vibration..

My question is how much is too much? How can I even gauge it? I can feel a pretty strong vibration in the table, and a wood block sitting on it will slowly dance across it, I just don’t know what is normal is for a $200 bench-top drill? Do I exchange it for another. do I return it for the the $54 HF model. Honestly if it was the $54 drill it would be a non issue, but spending 4 times that much I was hoping for more?

I wanted to add that I removed the belts and ran the motor alone, and got the same vibration, So it’s coming all from the motor.


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Bill White

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#1 posted 06-26-2017 04:07 PM

My “newest” Craftsman tool is a two tiered tool chest set that I bought in 1978.
That being said, I’ve not bought anything from Sears since then. The chest if fine, but anything since just does not carry the old Sears quality. What a shame.
Take the DP back.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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Rick_M

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#2 posted 06-27-2017 03:23 AM

Double check the motor mounting but there shouldn’t be any significant vibration. I agree with Bill, take it back.

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#3 posted 06-27-2017 10:35 AM

Take that $200 drillpress back and go get the $54 HF model. It’s $54, you can’t go wrong unless it won’t turn on.

Actually, scratch that. Order either this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005UKGLAS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498559800&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=wen+drill+press&dpPl=1&dpID=41dwSmRAWjL&ref=plSrch

Or this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HQONFVE/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1498559800&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=wen+drill+press&dpPl=1&dpID=419zIZO19cL&ref=plSrch

You can’t beat them for the money. The 8” is the same price as the HF plus has the cast iron table.

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wmacky

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#4 posted 06-27-2017 01:34 PM


Take that $200 drillpress back and go get the $54 HF model. It s $54, you can t go wrong unless it won t turn on.

Actually, scratch that. Order either this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005UKGLAS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498559800&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=wen+drill+press&dpPl=1&dpID=41dwSmRAWjL&ref=plSrch

Or this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HQONFVE/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1498559800&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=wen+drill+press&dpPl=1&dpID=419zIZO19cL&ref=plSrch

You can t beat them for the money. The 8” is the same price as the HF plus has the cast iron table.

- Gilley23

And I just did that! Thanks! The 10” is backordered, so I just got the 8”. The only reason I left HF without it was I didn’t like the new stamped steel base / table. This one looks identical except you get upgraded metal parts! This is going to work out much better as the Craftsman was too tall on my bench anyway.

I only had a few minutes to order and get it by Friday so I jumped. I’m in big trouble if Sears doesn’t refund the other drill….........

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Bill White

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#5 posted 06-27-2017 04:14 PM

Looked at the HF 8 in. DP this morning. Piece of crap for sure. Plastic parts, and a HUGE amount of run out on the quill. Maybe the Wen will be better.
I’ll stick with my OLD (1952) Craftsman cast iron beast by King Seely.
Bill

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Rick_M

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#6 posted 06-27-2017 06:16 PM

FYI, last time I checked all the bench top drill presses were the same base frame with different paint and covers. The Craftsman was actually the better model with balanced wheels.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#7 posted 06-27-2017 10:24 PM

Are you sure you do not have over expectation? Maybe your table saw and drill press are just OK. These are power tools and are supposed to vibrate.

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wmacky

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#8 posted 06-27-2017 11:08 PM



Are you sure you do not have over expectation? Maybe your table saw and drill press are just OK. These are power tools and are supposed to vibrate.

- Carloz


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wmacky

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#9 posted 06-27-2017 11:16 PM

Are you sure you do not have over expectation? Maybe your table saw and drill press are just OK. These are power tools and are supposed to vibrate.

- Carloz

- wmacky

I don’t know, perhaps? I’t hard to know whats “normal”. I did do this test yesterday at work, as we have an old faithful press that’s about 50 years old. I ran it and felt the table.

The vibration of the table didn’t feel markedly different from my Sears unit. But here’s what was different. If stood a PVC coupling on the table at work it was rock solid. At home on the Craftsman I could hear it rattle and it would slowly dance across the table until it fell off. I didn’t what how better to compare than that?

I do know the WEN unit at $54 will get less scrutiny. Surprisingly the WEN is rated fairly well in what I’ve read. I guess I’ll see soon enough. My hobby DIY projects deals mostly with aluminum, and I’m space limited. That small press was probably was my best choice all along.

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#10 posted 06-28-2017 12:17 AM

I bought a Craftsman radial arm drill press years ago, what a pile of garbage. The table flexes really bad and it is way under powered. Wood magazine picked it for one of its dream shop but it’s almost unusable. Take the drill press back get anything else.

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johnstoneb

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#11 posted 06-28-2017 01:18 AM

Shouldn’t be any vibration in a drill press.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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Dakkar

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#12 posted 06-29-2017 01:04 AM

You either are having bad luck with quality control or those models have been changed in the last decade or so. I’ve got a small Craftsman benchtop press I bought back in the ‘00s that works great. It’s literally one of my favorite power tools and I’ve never had vibration. I drill everything from 1/16 to large Forster holes with it. I had a large heavy duty tabletopper I discarded in favor of this small one. I say swap it one more time before you give up.

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wmacky

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#13 posted 06-29-2017 01:39 AM

Update:

So this afternoon I owned 3 drill presses for a moment. I changed my mind after ordering that $54 8” WEN press, and ordered the 10” WEN press from another vendor. It didn’t have power complaints like the 8” did, and had a couple other features for a few bucks more. It was still cheap enough to not care as much, so I can forget about drill presses, and get back to my lagging project. I did take the Craftsman back today for a full refund, so now I’m back down to owning only 2 new drills :-)

Now, do I refuse delivery on the 8” WEN and just wait for the 10” to come, or keep both over the weekend and send back the one that sucks the least!

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TaySC

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#14 posted 06-29-2017 01:48 AM



Take that $200 drillpress back and go get the $54 HF model. It s $54, you can t go wrong unless it won t turn on.

Actually, scratch that. Order either this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005UKGLAS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498559800&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=wen+drill+press&dpPl=1&dpID=41dwSmRAWjL&ref=plSrch

Or this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HQONFVE/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1498559800&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=wen+drill+press&dpPl=1&dpID=419zIZO19cL&ref=plSrch

You can t beat them for the money. The 8” is the same price as the HF plus has the cast iron table.

- Gilley23

I have that Wen 10” DP and IMHO it is well worth the price.

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wmacky

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#15 posted 07-03-2017 09:22 PM

Final update.

My new WEN 10” press came today. WOO HOO! I love it!

They refunded me at Sears for the 12” Craftsman, and I refused shipment of the 8” WEN on Friday. Today the 10” WEN finally arrived. I’m glad I changed my mind and went for the 10”, as the only negative reviews about the 8” were lack of power. I think this one will be better in that regard.

So here’s my report—It’s fantastic! Much better build then the similar HF model with upgraded cast iron base / table. LED lighting, and lasers, all for less money even. It really looks sharp too. Another plus for me is the more compact size then the returned 12” Craftsman. The craftsman was way too tall IMO for bench top use, as I needed a step ladder to get to the belts. This size is going to work out much better for my type of projects, and available space.

After powering it on, it seemed the belt must of come off as it hardly made any noise. WTH? No wait, the spindle is turning??? Holy cow is this how quite a drill press is supposed to be? Now I know what a piece of crap that Craftsman was, it must have been completely defective. As final test, I put may hand on the table, and no vibration. Compared to the craftsman I’d say 0 vibration. Again I’m glad I returned the other one. Sometimes when we buy something we try to talk ourselves into believing there isn’t a problem, to avoid a PITA return. I initially didn’t want to believe that I had once again been short changed with defective junk. Thanks to those that said to dump it!

SOOO – thumbs up for the 10” WEN press from me. Highly recommeded, and thanks to the forum member that pointed me that way.

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