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TopamaxSurvivor

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12-13-2010 01:34 AM

Topic tags/keywords: dado bottom dovetail box joint

What is the best way and sign of quality to do the groove for the bottom? Cut it without the dado exteneding out the ends of the boards? Cut it with the ends of the dado open and left that way? OR Cut it with the ends of the dado open and patched? If you cut it without going out the ends, what is the fastest and easiest way to do that?

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence


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#1 posted 12-13-2010 03:01 AM

I usually cut the grooves with a router and make them come up short of the ends.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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#2 posted 12-13-2010 03:10 AM

you can cut them all the way and then 45 your corners…they dont show..or do a butt joint …i cut a datto on the two ends and butt the sides into them…that way you dont see the datto for the bottom that way either..or do a rich suggested..just do a stop datto and clean it up with a chisel…did any of that make sense ..

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#3 posted 12-13-2010 03:16 AM

Yep, it makes sense ;-))

What Rich said is what I was thinking, just thought I’d throw it out and see if any earth shattering ideas I hadn’t thought of came back :-))

I wonde how the old timers did it before routers? Take the time to cut a dado without ends or patch the holes?

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#4 posted 12-13-2010 03:20 AM

Hand- chiseled dados…shudder. I got way too much to do for that.

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#5 posted 12-13-2010 03:24 AM

Hey Bob. As Rich stated you can do a stopped dado. I may be stating the obvious but you can do through dadoes on two sides but have to do stopped ones on the other two. Hey Grizz, you feeling okay today? Bob is asking about dovetail or box joint corners! lol

-- On the eighth day God was back in His woodworking shop! Lenny, East Providence, RI

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#6 posted 12-13-2010 03:43 AM

Lenny, after I posted this I realized only 2 sides would have the holes and the other 2 would be hidden.

I have been thinking how quick and easy it would be to hit the bottom edge with a plough plane rather than set up the router. The plough plane won’t do stopped dados very well :-((

Another option would be to dado the hidden sides, then glue a piece below the ends that weren’t dadoed. The wood movement would be sideways, so a fairly tight fitted bottom should not be a problem, right?? How tacky would that be??

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#7 posted 12-13-2010 06:02 AM

well lenny…like a 747 over the top of my head…....sheesh…what a complete idiot i look like…......i think ill stick to makin dust in my grizz cave ans stay there…......lol…....sorry bob…maybe next time you ned help…aske me then…ill help you do your datto with a chainsaw..hows that…lol…

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#8 posted 12-13-2010 06:50 AM

I never thougt of that Grizz, I could could make a stopped dado with the nose of the chain saw, clean it up with a chisel and save the router set up time:-)

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#9 posted 12-13-2010 07:54 PM

You guys have it all worked out. I think I will call you “The Finesse Twins” from now on!

-- On the eighth day God was back in His woodworking shop! Lenny, East Providence, RI

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#10 posted 12-14-2010 02:51 AM

I would suggest routing a stopped groove with a plunge router if you have the right size bit. The other option would be to do as you suggest and cut them all the way through then plug them, I have seen this done before with fairly good looking results but would still go with the stopped groove.

-- David - Houston, Texas. (http://www.justsquareenough.com/)

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