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Forum topic by Loren posted 06-24-2017 04:52 PM 845 views 0 times favorited 27 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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#1 posted 06-24-2017 04:55 PM

Yeah that is insanity!! This is also discussed here LINK

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#2 posted 06-24-2017 05:02 PM

Back in 2014 Lowe’s was sued for the exact same thing. Lowe’s had to pay out 1.6 million.

http://threepercenternation.com/2014/09/litigation-nation-lowes-pays-1-6m-settlement-over-2x4-labeling/#

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#3 posted 06-24-2017 05:03 PM

WOW, greed and stupidity knows no boundaries.

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#4 posted 06-24-2017 05:04 PM

I’ve been under the impression that it
comes off the mill as 4” on a side and
shrinkage and planing take it down to
dimension. I’ve seen “real” 2×4s in old
buildings, but they aren’t planed.

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#5 posted 06-24-2017 05:21 PM

Not gonna lie, as much as I hate this lawsuit, someone on Facebook posted a photo of the price label for some of the 2×4 and 4×4 and it actually said “2-in x 4-in” or “4-in x 4-in”. If I see that, I expect the lumber I’m purchasing to be that size, not nominal sizing. If the label is just 2×4 or 4×4, then I can expect it to be nominal. Does everyone assume nominal even on a label like that? I honestly don’t think a lawsuit is necessary; just make HD change it like Lowes and it wouldn’t be such a big deal for old and newcomers. (I made the same mistake when I bought my first lumber LONG time ago; I didn’t know what the hell nominal was until I got home. We all have a point of beginning in learning this stuff).

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#6 posted 06-24-2017 05:25 PM

So when they figure up square footage of a house and measure length by width and come up with xyz square feet are we being cheated when the walls and such are not taking into account reducing the actual square footage by a good amount? A 8×10 shed from say the Borg is 8×10 on the outside not the inside. So minus the thickness of the walls that comes to 71 sq feet of usable interior space, not 80. Crazy!! I need a beer!

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#7 posted 06-24-2017 05:31 PM

Some people have no common sense.

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#8 posted 06-24-2017 05:34 PM

Some people have no common sense and just need to be knocked upside the head with both sizes.I bet they wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.:)

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#9 posted 06-24-2017 05:36 PM

So they found the construction lumber. Next stop… the plumbing section.

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#10 posted 06-24-2017 05:39 PM



Not gonna lie, as much as I hate this lawsuit, someone on Facebook posted a photo of the price label for some of the 2×4 and 4×4 and it actually said “2-in x 4-in” or “4-in x 4-in”. If I see that, I expect the lumber I m purchasing to be that size, not nominal sizing. If the label is just 2×4 or 4×4, then I can expect it to be nominal. Does everyone assume nominal even on a label like that? I honestly don t think a lawsuit is necessary; just make HD change it like Lowes and it wouldn t be such a big deal for old and newcomers. (I made the same mistake when I bought my first lumber LONG time ago; I didn t know what the hell nominal was until I got home. We all have a point of beginning in learning this stuff).

- Rayne

When you pick up 4/4 s3s it’s never 1”.

Kinda like a 1/4 burger always has a disclaimer because some dumbass sued.

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#11 posted 06-24-2017 05:40 PM



So they found the construction lumber. Next stop… the plumbing section.

- SignWave

And the electrical :) not 1 pipe size is the dimension listed.

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#12 posted 06-24-2017 05:41 PM

Wanna sue anybody it should be those cookie manufactures that put 9 frickin cookies in one of those molded plastic trays, then charge you 112.00 for it. :>/

In the end we all are the ones that loose. Whatever the settlement or cost to change labels will just be passed on to us with higher prices.

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#13 posted 06-24-2017 05:43 PM

double post

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#14 posted 06-24-2017 05:49 PM

Someone needs a 1 1/2” X 3 1/2” X 92 5/8” knocked upside the head.

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#15 posted 06-24-2017 06:02 PM

My house is stick framed from 2x material, that is actually 2” x whatever it should be. Same for my uncle’s house. So it isn’t a scenario where it’s a tradition or has always been done this way. So why not label it correctly or mill it correctly. It’s a shame it ever came to a lawsuit. Look how many years 3/4” ply wasn’t 3/4,”but now it’s labeled 21/32.

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