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Forum topic by shubtauer posted 06-19-2017 03:00 PM 333 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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shubtauer

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06-19-2017 03:00 PM

Topic tags/keywords: ridgid table saw bosch table saw table saw ts

First time poster, long time lurker here.

I bought a Ridgid portable contractor TS with the folding carriage, think it’s r4510. 10” 15A saw, I’ll be honest I wasn’t happy with it right away. Fence and miter gauge are junk, my height adjustment knob doesn’t hold, the top doesn’t seem as smooth as it should be and the blade change wrenches are less than perfect. I’ve had a hard time dialing it in to make good straight cuts and I really don’t trust it with joint work, or even big rip cuts with full stock. I bought it because the reviews were great and I caught it $100 off at the HD. I had been debating between the Bosch model with the same setup and this and I went with Ridgid.

Now my switch is burned up after 1 year of very light duty work (mostly ripping, a few small dadoes and rabbets). I wish it was the motor gone bad so I could justify buying the Bosch since I’m under the impression it’s a better model. Here’s the catch:

I no longer need a saw with the collapsible stand as I planned on building a beefy outfeed table doubling as a workbench. At the time the base was ideal but now, with my shop arrangement I don’t need it, I want a permanent home for the TS.

If I’m just going to set the TS in a permanent table do you think the Bosch saw-only option is superior to the Ridgid? I could fix the switch and sell the Ridgid to offset the cost of the Bosch. Anyone prefer one over the other? As of now I’m SOL without the TS and I’m not thrilled with the idea of fixing the Ridgid just to go back to mediocre accuracy.

Sorry for the looooong post guys, thanks for the input.


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#1 posted 06-19-2017 04:20 PM

For the sake of clarity, your R4510 is a portable jobsite saw. Contractor saws are generally much heavier and larger full size cast iron saws with belt drive induction motors.

Regarding your question about upgrading to the Bosch…while I suspect that the Bosch is the better of the two saws, it’s a stll portable jobsite saw with most of the same drawbacks that your R4510 had. It’ll still be small, made with lots of a plastics and lightweight metals, and will have a direct drive universal motor. The biggest advantage of a portable saw is portability. If you don’t need that feature, I’d definitely look into a stationary saw. If you’re looking for a permanent home for your table saw and are going to upgrade, I think it’d be well worth your while to upgrade in class by a step or two. I’d look to a true full size contractor saw, or possibly a hybrid saw if you’re going to bother.

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#2 posted 06-19-2017 09:53 PM

I agree with Scott. I have the Bosch 4100 and while I think it’s the best in it’s class, it is still no comparison to a true stationary table saw with outboard motor, cast iron top, etc. I’m thankful my Bosch got me as far as it did and still retain it incase of needing to be mobile or cutting MDF outside.
Plus the cost of a new Bosch 4100 (unless looking for the flesh sensing tech one, which I found to be selling locally oddly enough instead of being banned) of $500+ as compared to a used Craftsman $100-$200 on Craigslist makes a difference in decision making too.

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#3 posted 06-19-2017 10:16 PM

Thanks for your suggestions guys. I would love to upgrade to a hybrid style saw, I’m working in a space slightly smaller than a one car garage so, apart from the financial impossibility of buying a giant saw (plus bumping my electrical panel) I’m also limited by space; a hybrid might make sense. I’m mainly considering the Bosch saw w/ out the stand for the price and because, as I said, I was planning on building a combination outdeed/assembly table with some tool storage. I could slide Bosch in there without sacrificing a lot of square footage for a stand alone unit.

Right now my saw has seen a lot of general DIY work, lots of home projects and building cabinets and shelves and such. And while my wife wants projects done, I’m not sure if she’s going to let me pull the trigger on something above the $500 range. Actually she doesn’t know how much the Ridgid was (got it on sale), but I think she wants a new van in the driveway before I drop a bunch of cash again in the shop.

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#4 posted 06-19-2017 10:18 PM

I agree with the above post. If you no longer need a portable saw, I would look at full size saw.
For the $550+ budget, you can find some really good saws on craigslist, or check out Grizzly.com
there saws start out at $750. Night and day from the portable saws.

http://www.grizzly.com//tablesaws

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#5 posted 06-19-2017 10:30 PM

I want a permanent home for the TS.
[...]
I was planning on building a combination outdeed/assembly table with some tool storage.

Most people don’t realize that the footprint of a hybrid (or even a cabinet) saw is not that much more than a portable jobsite saw. A contractor saw with the motor hanging out the back actually takes up even more. The only advantage they have is they are portable, period. The disadvantages are numerous (lots of plastic, small table top, cheap parts, universal motor with plastic housing that will toast itself when pushed to hard, etc…)

Cheers,
Brad

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#6 posted 06-19-2017 11:28 PM

When I had only my Bosch 4100, I though the footprint of a cabinet saw would of been huge! Well, I was right :) My Unisaw & PM66 both have 52” rails on them (I somehow squeeze all these machines in a 2 car garage). But you do not have to put 52” rails on a hybrid (like the Grizzly) or true cabinet saw. Like Brad says, the footprint of a table top Bosch or Ridge is “slightly” smaller than their larger cousins. It’s the “under” the table top that matters as they come with metal bases that can be mounted on roll around mobile base frames, and how long (if any) rails you get.
Basically, if you are looking for a table saw in your 1 car garage, go hybrid or cabinet saw from craigslist (I bought my Unisaw for $500 with the 52” rails and fence system). If you are looking to move your saw from garage to friend’s house, go portable jobsite saw.
But it is true, you could store the bosch away much easier than a cabinet saw. Here is what I did when I had only my bosch:
http://lumberjocks.com/projects/108410

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#7 posted 06-20-2017 02:03 AM

Yup, you put huge ass rails on it, it’s going to eat up space. But unless you plan on ripping 4×8 sheets of plywood a lot, most of that capacity will go unused. Here is a little C-man on top of a Unisaw:

Cheers,
Brad

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#8 posted 06-20-2017 04:19 AM

I haven’t looked at the Bosch for a while, but many of the job site saws have a crappy little 1/8” think throat plate or insert. This makes it challenging to have a proper zero clearance insert. That alone would be a deal breaker for me.

I don’t understand why Hitachi, Cobalt, Ryobi, Cman, etc. all do that. It’s sort of like the engineers said, “Hey, if those guys can make a crappy table insert, so can we. No point in breaking with the pack.”

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