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newbiewoodworker

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1225 days ago

I contacted Porter Cable, over this planer issue, a stripped screw, and a squeeling cutterhead. They told me that I need to have these replaced at the factory service centre. They said its a bearing probably, causing the squeeling, and the screws need to be extracted. When I asked if it were covered under warranty, I recieved the snipety reply of “It is not a warranty issue when you run a bad board through the planer. Warranty covers factory defect. ”... well way to treat your customer folks… Last I checked bearings are your issue… since a bearing doesnt generally go bad within 6 months… Pardon my french, but these friggin people are obviously not the brightest…

Also, I would imagine the screws are by far, very high carbon, since I dont think I can damage my HF chisels as easy as I did that screw…

Oh, and lets not forget, they probably will want close to $100 to do this, between screw extraction, and the damn bearing…

If you guys say that it wont, mess the bearing up, and they still proceed to tell me its my problem… well, they better begin to like the better buisness buearu… they are like my attack hounds… and always bring back a piece of their ear… lol.. as I dont need the agriration…nor the cost…

I do have a local lead on an old, made in america, 12” Jointer, and a big planer… I just want to see what these puppys go for… lol… So I think, goodbye Black and Decker… :P Gotta love people getting rid of Iron Overflow… :)

-- "Ah, So your not really a newbie, but a I betterbie."


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patron

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#1 posted 1225 days ago

buck up there newbie

i don’t know how many tools i’ve gone thru in 46 years
buy ‘em use ‘em break ‘em dump ‘em
if they get me to the next job
i get what i can afford and move on

waiting for perfect doesn’t matter to much
do the best you can
with what you have

work your way up
then you will really know
what to get

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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rance

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#2 posted 1225 days ago

If I have a ‘bad’ board, I put it in time-out until it behaves, then run it through the planer. If, however, one got past me, then I expect the planer to ‘straighten it out’. Works EVERY time. Seriously, ask PC what kind of ‘bad board’ could possibly cause this. Warranty should cover a bearing unless you are using it commercially for hours a day. Sick-em BBB! But David is also right(after the warranty runs out of course). :)

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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Sawkerf

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#3 posted 1225 days ago

I’ve read some of your posts and I thinking that;

a. You’re the unlucky receipient of a lot of really bad tools, or
b. Your expectations are far beyond what a tool manufacturer can possibly build – unless they have a NASA budget, or
c. You’re using the tools in ways the manufacturer never intended and getting ticked off when they have problems.

-- Adversity doesn't build character...................it reveals it.

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newbiewoodworker

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#4 posted 1225 days ago

Definately (a)....

Reason:
- How could I have caused a bandsaw’s tracking arm to snap? THis is a known weakness in that piece, for that brand of saw. More simply, its pot-metal…
-I use the planer in less a way, than most people. Granted, these tools are junk to begin with, they should atleast be working junk. I plane boards rarely. And when I do, I take roughly 1 turn of the wheel, each pass. There is no depth guage on this, so its all by feel, essentially. These tools technically are rated to take 1/8 of an inch, per pass, although it does wear the knives out. So I take between 1/16, and 1/8 off..l. so maybe 3/32nds.

So I think I can justify my statement, that I have just been the reciepiant of some really piece of s**t tools…. lol.. to put it bluntly. Now granted, the screw was partly my fault; After seeing it tightened down so much(I had to use a breaker bar to undo them), I probably over tightened them, using the breaker bar again..(believe me, now I cant get them off, w/o using one.. lol… But I didnt want to dodge flying knives… lol.. But I dont think I caused a bearing to kick it..

-- "Ah, So your not really a newbie, but a I betterbie."

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Blakep

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#5 posted 1225 days ago

Newbie, the bearing should probably be replaced under warranty but a word of advice on these benchtop or portable planers, I have a dewalt one and so far it has been a great planer but I usually take about 1/32 off per pass. Sometimes I will take a 1/16 and it does ok. I know they are rated for 1/8 but mine realistically want handle that much very well. I take 1/32 off and just make a few passes. If they fix the bearing under warranty then try cutting it down to about 1/32 per pass and I think it will help your machine last longer.

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Julian

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#6 posted 1225 days ago

I have abused my dewalt 735 planer daily for about 6 years now and I have yet to have any problems with it. I would say you have a defective part that SHOULD be under warranty.

-- Julian, Park Forest, IL

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newbiewoodworker

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#7 posted 1225 days ago

Okay, thx guys. I was pretty certain that a bearing would be a defective part.. since it never did it before… And I know that Bearings are ususally rated for a long time, as long as they dont sit for 20 years, unused… I mean its pretty darn simple, some BBs in a ring, with a glob of grease… And they arent expensive.. but the labor would be… :(

-- "Ah, So your not really a newbie, but a I betterbie."

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#8 posted 1225 days ago

I do not know what to say. Maybe contact customer service and ask to speak with a manager. Bearings are easy to replace. In regards to bad wood, the only time i have seen what i think you are describing is when someone put an end grain glue up through their planer.

-- Norman

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Ole

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#9 posted 1225 days ago

I know this isn’t very constructive, but what exactly is a “bad” board supposed to be?

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newbiewoodworker

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#10 posted 1225 days ago

I certainly did no such thing! lol… I would have been freakin killed.. lol.. By the Planer Gods.. and the shrapnel…

Ole: My point exactly… I have never seen a bad board… she also went on to say, that knots cause bent knives? Well then if thats the case, mine should look like a Carrot ripple cutter…. Cause all wood has knots…

-- "Ah, So your not really a newbie, but a I betterbie."

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patron

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#11 posted 1225 days ago

whenever i hit a ‘bad board’
tapered or to curved
i back the cutters off
before it gets worse
then come down slowly
flipping the board over
and doing the other side to
till it slides better

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Dark_Lightning

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#12 posted 1225 days ago

Ole, from the sounds of it, it is iron wood, or something. ;) I guess I believe that the customer service rep actually said “bad board”, since that’s the way it’s reported, but that sounds lame. Realistically, I’ve shaved some mighty thicknesses off boards with my PC tabletop planer and didn’t zorch a bearing. Sounds like a defect to me.

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JasonWagner

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#13 posted 1225 days ago

+1 to only taking 1/32” to 1/16” off on a lunch box planer. As long as they don’t blame the bearings on the stripped screw (if you did it) I would be pretty adamant about it being covered under warranty. If the machine looks clean except for the bearing you’re good, if it’s beat up you never know what they’ll say. It’s like fighting…don’t leave it to the judges.

-- some day I hope to have enough clamps to need a clamp cart!

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newbiewoodworker

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#14 posted 1225 days ago

Its pretty dam emaculate… I wax the darn thing weekly… I open the dust hood, and clean that, bi-weekly… I vacume it… after most uses…

-- "Ah, So your not really a newbie, but a I betterbie."

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lilredweldingrod

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#15 posted 1225 days ago

A bad board….....hhmmmmmmm…..Is that a Naughty board or a Knotty board? What in the world could this teenager have been thinking? Run a board through a planer? Aren’t you aware that this might possibly get dust inside the machine? For shame, for shame. These PC planers are just to look at and wax. They must be dusted daily! Why your shop teacher should have explained this in great detail. Now you have to sue him for the repairs.

Well, it sounds good to Porter Cable. Maybe we ought to Scotch hobble them.

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