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Forum topic by dfdye posted 12-07-2010 12:20 PM 2220 views 0 times favorited 5 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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dfdye

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12-07-2010 12:20 PM

This is sort of an odd request, but I was wondering somebody may have an old Stanley Bailey Type 13 or 14 No. 5 plane they would be willing to part with for a reasonable price. I have a type 14 No. 7 and a type 13 No. 4, and I would like to get a matching No. 5 to complete that set. It is very easy to identify whether a Bailey plane is a type 13 or 14—it will have a a single patent date behind the frog reading “U.S. PAT. APR-19-10.”

I would really prefer a Type 14 with a standard sole (non-corrugated) that has the original handles, blade and chip breaker, but if you have a plane missing some of these, that isn’t necessarily a deal breaker, so please let me know! I am definitely looking for a plane that has not been restored since I am really on a tight budget for this, and am willing to offer up to $40 including shipping for a half decent plane.

So as not to insult anyone with this low-ball price offer, I’ll get right to the bottom line: $40 is the budget imposed by the executive finance committee (AKA my dearest wife), so I am not really in a position to argue with her too much. You see, the reason I am asking around here is that I would like to be able to complete a set of planes as a Christmas present to me from my wife.* I made the mistake of telling my wife what I could get one of these in decent shape, but that looks ugly for ~$20.00 + S&H on Ebay or at one of the local flea markets. While I am still confident I will be able to do this, I just don’t think I’ll be able to find this specific one between now and Christmas.

If you have a type 14 that that you think is worth more, trust me, I completely understand! I really am not looking to low-ball anyone. I just know that a bunch of LJ’s pick up project planes at yard sales or swap meets and may happen to have one of these ugly planes stashed away that they may be willing to sell.

Thanks a ton, and I KNOW this is a zany request!

  • Yes, you read that right: I am shopping for my own Christmas present, but my wife is definitely in on it. She just knows that I have all of the details and what to look for, and that she would rather get me take care of getting the right one rather than something that sort of looks kind of right. She is awesome like that! However, since she is the one buying the present, she also set the price.

-- David from Indiana --


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#1 posted 12-07-2010 12:28 PM

By the way, the back-story on this collection is a LJ tale, so I guess it would be fitting if it came full circle!

This all started with a type 14 No. 7 Bailey I restored as part of a challenge from WayneC. Well, I have absolutely fallen in love with it. Since then, I have kept a part-time eye out for other type 14 planes on Ebay since I liked this one so much and figured it would be neat to have a “set” of the three planes I use the most, a No 4, No 5 and No 7, all from the same series. No logical reason for this, just that it will be fun.

I finally got a No 4 that I originally thought was a type 14, but turns out was a type 13. OK, so goof on my part, but these two types are very similar in design (two minor differences on the casting), so I figured I would be happy completing the set with a No. 5 of either type. You really can’t tell the difference between the two types unless you know what you are looking for.

Yea, I know I could get a No 5 from Ebay that almost matches the type 14, but I figured it would be more fun to actually hold out and get the one that would be the best fit for the set. Even if I don’t find one for Christmas, I am sure I’ll find one eventually, and that would definitely be better than just getting the “wrong” one just to say it got here for Christmas! :)

-- David from Indiana --

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#2 posted 12-07-2010 01:51 PM

I have an incomplete #5, whats the difference between a type 13, 14. I do not know how to tell what is what. To me a #5 is a #5 is a #5

-- My job is to give my kids things to discuss with their therapist....medic20447@gmail.com

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dfdye

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#3 posted 12-08-2010 03:42 AM

The type 13 and 14’s have “U.S. PAT. APR-19-10.” cast just behind the frog. This series had the solid frog face (as did many others of that period) and a lever cap with just slightly different casting of the Stanley logo than for other series. They also had the “sweetheart” logo on the blade, but it is pretty easy to find a sweetheart blade on a different plane, or a type 14 with a replacement blade. The real marker is the patent date.

-- David from Indiana --

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dfdye

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#4 posted 12-14-2010 08:28 AM

WooHoo! Through some funky negotiations via another begging post, I found the perfect No 5! I will definitely post pictures of the set once they all get cleaned up and in use, but it appears as if the one I found was pretty well restored recently, and is just about ready to go.

As a side note, the seller of the No 5 also had a No 3 that was fantastically restored, and offered a nice package deal for both. Long story short, I guess I will be having a mildly painful conversation with the executive finance committee about that check, but at least they will be here for Christmas!

Thanks to everyone for offering up the helpful tips back-channel! I can’t tell you all how much I appreciated them!

-- David from Indiana --

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#5 posted 09-26-2014 07:53 PM

So, after 4 years are you still using those? How did they work out for you?

I recently bought on ebay a No 5, which I think is a type 14. It has the single patent date, the raised ring around the knob, but doesn’t have “Made in USA” at the toe, as the type study claims a type 14 should. Is yours like that too?

-Paul

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