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knife

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12-06-2010 09:00 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question miter saw

I had about decided to get the hitachii 12 in compact sliding miter, but have also checked out the new bosch glider. Now can’t decide which to buy. One question I have is about accuracy. Do you see a degradation of accuracy over time with the slider? It is about half the price, and appears to be a good saw. I would like to buy a saw that will last and so would be willing to buy the more expensive saw if it will be better long term. I realize the bosch hasn’t been out long, but though some opinions would be helpful.

-- Chad -- Buffalo, NY


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Drew

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#1 posted 12-06-2010 09:46 PM

The 10”Hitachi is a very good saw. Never used the 12”
I am not a big fan of 12” sliders. There seems to be a lot of deflection in the heads.

I played with the new Bosch at my local tool shop. I was VERY disappointed. With little force, I could move the head left and right at least the thickness of the blade. There is no way I am paying that kind of money for a sloppy saw. Soft start is also A MUST HAVE for me. I don’t know how they can make an $800 saw w/o it.

btw, the $400 Hitachi DOES have soft start!

-- That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons that history has to teach.” ― Aldous Huxley

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rance

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#2 posted 12-06-2010 10:20 PM

I’ve never been a fan of sliders in general. I’m of the belief that a non-slider 12” is MORE than enough for any home shop. It seems that sliders could require more alignment throughout the years to keep it accurate. If you didn’t have a slider what hoops would you have to jump through to get your board cut, and how often would that happen? Your Bio. doesn’t say anything about what kind of ww’ing you do, hobby or commercial, cabinets or trinkets. Actually it doesn’t say anything at all. :) Might be a reason to update that. :) I’m not much for buying on sex-appeal. I don’t mind having ugly tools as long as they do what I need them to do.

I just had a fleeting thought. If the slider only lasted half as long as the ‘glider’, then could you be ahead buying the slider with the plan of replacing it at the half-life of the glider? Who knows what changes in technology will be by then. I’m not sure I always want to shell out the bucks for a power tool that will outlast me anyways. Its ok if they do, but that’s not my goal.

Please let us know what kind of ww-ing you do. :)

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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childress

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#3 posted 12-06-2010 11:00 PM

I second what Johnny says. I’ve used all sizes and don’t particularly like the 12” because of the deflection. I have used an old 8” slider from hitachi that I thought was great. It was probably 10 years old at the time and was very accurate and tight. Loved it.

-- Childress Woodworks

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knife

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#4 posted 12-06-2010 11:01 PM

Edited my profile as suggested. One of these days I’ll get some photos of the shop on here too. I think I am leaning toward the hitachi but thought other opinions would be valuable. I have a cheap single bevel miter saw and would like to upgrade to something that will do more and hadle greater width than My current 10 inch saw. It won’t even croscut a 6inch board.

-- Chad -- Buffalo, NY

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rance

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#5 posted 12-06-2010 11:13 PM

Sounds like you could make good use of the ‘slider’ for more capacity.

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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Kevin

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#6 posted 12-07-2010 07:18 AM

Hey knife, I agree with everyone also. I’m not much on 12’s either. I just did a review of my Makita that i’ve had for a year now. The reason I chose this was because of the accuracy that it’s suppose to give. I’m not disappointed at all. I’m also extremely picky about my cuts btw. Now the SCMS does have a small fence, but that’s a small price to pay for the accuracy and smooth operation that saw gives me.

Review
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/1778

I’ve heard Hitachi makes really good SCMS also.

Kevin

-- Williamsburg, KY

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Millo

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#7 posted 12-07-2010 07:53 AM

great!... I’m not in the market for one, but the other day I was wondering about the whole 12” vs. 10” issue, and thought that maybe the 10” blades were more accurate because, being smaller, there was less of a chance for them to be misaligned in the arbor/deflect/bind… I’m not sure what the term would be for the problem I’m thinking about, but yeah… Is this a real concern, then? Seems to be according to your comments.

I think the 12” version of the Makita recommended, if not the 10” has more than two sliding… rods? ...what are those called?... anyway, it has four, I believe, to aid in stability. Is this what you guys are talking about? My concern was in the BLADES themselves. IS it valid, or a moot point?

Thanks.

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Pete_Jud

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#8 posted 12-07-2010 09:13 AM

I have had the 8 1/2 Hatachi for over 8 years, and love it. No slop, dead on, on every thing that I cut. Works great. But don’t know what the new ones are like.

-- Life is to short to own an ugly boat.

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gb_ibmguy

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#9 posted 12-07-2010 05:14 PM

IMHO, The new Makita LS1016L is one fine slider. Yes it has 4 tubes and has almost the same capacity as a 12” saw. Nice fence, laser, good stock blade. I really like mine! For around $400.00.

GB

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richgreer

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#10 posted 12-07-2010 09:33 PM

The miter saw is one of those tools that is probably used more for carpentry than woodworking. In my shop I use mine to cut up long boards in to sizes that are close to what I need for my project. However, if the final piece is less than 40” long, I make the final cut on the TS. Also, I go to the TS for precise angle cuts and compound cuts. It’s rare that my miter saw makes the final cut on a piece before assembly.

I say all this to say that I don’t get to hung up on accuracy and precision with a miter saw cut. My number one concern is capacity. I want to be able to cut a 2×12 with a single pass.

Another issue with me is how much space it takes up. Mine is backed against a wall and one of the designs that allows me to set the slider closer to a wall on the back is appealing.

Finally, my miter saw often goes on location with me if I am doing a carpentry job off site. Hence, a light weight, easy to handle saw is appealing.

Unfortunately, my Makita does not back up close to a wall and is not very light and easy to carry.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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