veritas honing jig/guide MKII vs. pinnacle's honing guide

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12-06-2010 07:53 PM

Any opinions, recommendations, pet peeves, pros and cons?

Everyone seems to love the Veritas. The Pinnacle seems to have a stone holder as a part of the jig, seems to be pretty much a self-contained solution.


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#1 posted 12-07-2010 01:05 AM

I’m a big fan of the MKII. The three-zone option allows a lot of versatility, and you can plop it down on any stone with impunity. I went ahead and sprang for the camber roller as well, and have nothing but praise for the system.

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#2 posted 12-07-2010 01:10 AM

I haven’t tried the Pinnacle so I can’t say how that one is, but I like the MK2 a lot. At first I scoffed at the price, but then bit the bullet and I’m glad I did. My only complaint is that on my thinner chisels, it’s more difficult to align it straight, if that makes any sense.

-- Tim, Plant City FL

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#3 posted 12-07-2010 01:38 AM

I use a £5 one. No frills quick and easy.

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#4 posted 12-07-2010 01:50 AM

MK II all the way. It is the most versatile set up I have seen and you can even set it up for spokeshave blades. It works on stones, scary sharp and diamond paste on oil soaked MDF, so as you progress with differing methods the guide will remain the constant. I am able to hone my chisels by hand and no longer use it on chisels, so it is always set up for plane blades and I will always use it for that. It is pricey but this is the only one you will ever need and it is all about repeatable results no matter what sharpening method you adopt.

-- Marc

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#5 posted 12-07-2010 04:56 AM

I have both the Veritas Mark II and the Mark I.

Mark II is better of the two for most plane irons, and blades of a set thickness. The register and adjustable angle with micro-bevel adjustment is great. Easy to quickly set the bevel, clamp in an iron, hit a few licks and back to work (I mark the primary and secondary bevel on the iron for reference). The con is clamping to chisels/old laminated irons that taper from tip to handle as the clamp works best on even thicknesses.

The Mark I is better for chisels that bevel from tip to handle as the washer will clamp a tapered surface. It does not have any side registration to keep the tool square, however, and I have had problems clamping small width chisels (i.e 1/4” and 3/8”).

I am happy with both for the price, having come to them after many trial and errors and homemade jigs that just didn’t measure up.

Cannot comment on pros-cons on the Pinnacle as I have never used one. If it addresses both the above problems I have encountered, and does not require a bunch of proprietary add-ons, it may be worth the added cost which is more than the two I have combined. I do not know one way or the other.

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#6 posted 12-07-2010 07:48 AM

Guys, thanks so much for the replies.

I know a lot of people just make their own stone holder out of wood or even plywood, but I was considering buying the stone holders as sold through Lee Valley and Woodcraft, later realizing the Pinnacle seems to hold the stone itself.

However, being that the Pinnacle is a whole frame, etc. I imagined that maybe the Veritas would be more versatile. I’ll keep this in mind, and obviously the lower price! ;-)

SO I guess if one takes care of these they won’t rust, huh? Camelia oil? I know, they’re finished, not “naked” metal, but since I’m a noob I was wondering how easy to maintain were these if used on waterstones.

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#7 posted 12-08-2010 01:57 AM

The Veritas has a brass roller, brass knobs and thumbscrews, and a thick baked-on coating on the cast body. The register appears to be stainless in weight and color, but is a cast piece. A magnet will not stick to any part of it, and all parts have too much weight to be aluminum or pot metal. None have enough iron to rust. All in all, very good quality in materials and workmanship.

I use water with the wet/dry paper and have had no problem with corrosion of any kind. I just wipe it off and let it dry before I put it back in the box. I see no hazard with using it on water stones, but would rinse any slurry off between stones and after use to prevent cross-contamination of different grits, and to keep from gumming up the roller when it dries.


-- Go

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#8 posted 12-08-2010 06:43 AM

Hey Gofor, thanks for the explanation. Great stuff, then.

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#9 posted 12-09-2010 07:03 AM

I have been using the Mark II for about a year now. I love it! I do any major grinding (primarily when a too is new) with the Tormac then use the Mark II with Shapton water stones (4,000 and 8,000). That combo works great for me. I thoroughly clean the jig and stones between grits to prevent cross contamination and haven’t seen any damage to either the jig or the stones. I expect both to serve me well for many years to come.

-- Ken

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