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12-05-2010 03:29 PM

Topic tags/keywords: humor question

Quite a while back I started a thread about clean laundry coming out of the dryer with a bad smoky smell ! Yup, well as it turned out, the reason for a bad smell in the laundry was due to fumes getting sucked into my LPG clothes dryer. It drove me crazy, wondering why the faint smell of burnt rubber in the clothes would be noticable once in a while. My finishing area was indeed close to the laundry room. I had no idea that the clothes in the dryer had the combusted air was circulated through the drying clothes as they tumbled. The dryer was sucking my solvent fumes into the firebox! Oddly, there were few comments of note, other than someone who missed the point entirely by suggesting that I tighten the drive belt. I knew there is no such thing as a way to adjust the belt; I just let it go. But.. I did resolve to investigate water-based finishes! And now, with my oil-based polyurethanes finally depleted, I used water-based poly for the first time, on my current project. Well the stuff laid on well, dried surprisingly quickly, and when lightly sanded with stearate 320, it came down well, save for a few gummy ‘nubs’ that wiped away okay. My only concern was the perceived lack of ‘body’ compared to oil-based. Second coat, I had an astounding discovery: THIS STUFF IS FLOOR WAX!! Sure enough, that bluish, milky stuff, the smell of it, the spreading properties, drying speed,....Floor Wax! Like Glo-coat, or any of those commercial preparations for putting a shine on vinyl floor tiles. I remember the labels on those 5-gallon cans: metallic interlocking floor finish! I’ll stop here and ask: Has anyone else noticed this? Is there really any difference between this aqueous furniture finish and commercial floor wax? Can I use floor stripper on it to remove it if I’m not happy with the finish? Anyone ever tried floor wax on furniture?

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!


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#1 posted 12-05-2010 05:43 PM

Err, actually, errr, yes.
We redid our floor a coupla years ago – just plain pine, and floor wax, and it came out quite well, for the floor anyway. I had a bunch of the pine left over so I made some tables, stools and the like, and some of those I used the same floor wax on. Worked a treat – quite hard-wearing, actually – surprising as that’s what it said on the bottle.

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#2 posted 12-05-2010 05:50 PM

Thanks, KnickKnack! I knew there had to be others out there! Mostly, I observed some wax had been splashed on those ugly vinyl cove moldings, mop boards or whatever they’re called… and it looked good! I splashed a bit on my ancient pickup truck hood, and voila! Shined nicely, for a very long time too. If I could be absolutely assured that aqueous poly IS floor wax, I’ll get a 5 Gallon bucket of it! This was quite a revelation for me! Maybe even a good topcoat for those two-part automotive finishes?? The possibilities are endless!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#3 posted 12-06-2010 12:10 AM

Aqueous “poly” and the water-based varnishes are all acrylics (plastics), not true organic coatings. I think acrylic is also the main component in some of the hard floor waxes, so you may be onto something. I do imagine the aqueous furniture coatings also have some other additives (i,e, urethanes, metallic dryers, etc) that may not be present in the floor version, but maybe not.

Intriguing observation. Let us know how the floor stripper works out!

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#4 posted 12-06-2010 02:51 AM

It never ceases to amaze me how you, PoopieKat, are able to discover the most
interesting facits of everyday thingamiebobs and turn them on their heads ! A wondering wedgie, and now a hood shining wood finish !
(without smelavision no less ..) A buddy’s doing some resto work on my ‘69 Beaumont’s front fender, tad of RUST!..behind the
wheel well..He works at a top line body shop and thought a paint match would be a piece of cake
as I had the GM paint code from the last repaint in 2000..hehehe..oh well..they’re using waterborne
paints now..exclusivly, gotta protect the environment dontcha know..their paint specialist is ripping what
remains of his hair out..BUT ! the shop smells sweeter..and I’ll still get my car back with a colr match..(by spring…......)

;-)

-- Glen, B.C. Canada

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#5 posted 12-06-2010 03:37 AM

Thx, glen!
If I had a ‘Beaumont’, the first thing I’d do is put a proper chevelle doghouse on the front! Hey I just heard of a guy in town who can mix factory colors and put them in an aerosol can for you…your choice too, of laquer, acrylics, or two-step flats. “66 Corvette rally red is my all-time favorite color, looks just right on any late-60’s GM product. Those aerosols, by the way, are less than $20 a pop. Gonna get a couple for my truck, yahoo!!! And of courrse, finish it off with Glo-coat floor wax, natch! I read somewhere that a few years ago, Bruce Springsteen performed in his hometown, Asbury Park NJ. He drove himself to the concert from his mom’s house. After the concert, he headed home, and saw this kid hitch-hiking to get home after the concert. He lived a few towns over. Bruce Springsteen picked him up, in his ‘69 Chevelle SS 396, and drove him to the kid’s home. That kid has a story to tell for the rest of his life!!!!
About stripping aqueous poly… I’d try ammonia-based stripper, but I’ve got too much oak in the racks, and wouldn’t want to get ‘tan lines’ on ‘em, as ‘huff’ stated in the ‘fuming’ thread.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#6 posted 12-06-2010 03:56 AM

bentlyj, did they ever put Saginaw 4-speeds in the SS models, or were they strictly Muncie M-22 rock crushers? I’m a Mopar guy myself, rather fond of the 413’s…. with nice shiny floor wax over Tuxedo Black.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#7 posted 12-06-2010 02:12 PM

Oh..my doodness..
Poopie it’s bad enough I see guys roaming around with 68 grills in their ‘69s..but a CHEVELLE DOGHOUSE ?
Mine’s an orriginal SD-396, now 496..And I’m rather partial to the Pontiac nose thank you..
No floor wax either..

The M-22 was an extra cost opotion..

(bought it in 1970 ..14 thousand orriginal and hard miles on it then..$27 hundred dollars.)

-- Glen, B.C. Canada

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#8 posted 12-06-2010 06:56 PM

Interesting read…and also what it’s turned into….

I guess having (ok, used to) an 11 sec VW puts me out of the loop, but I always LOVE car talk.

BTW- I used to hear that MOPAR stands for …...Moments Of Power Are Rare… Sorry, had to do it.
I have one for Pontiac, but I won’t even go there :-D

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#9 posted 12-06-2010 07:34 PM

You may be showing your age. I wonder how many even get the “Soylent Green” reference.

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#10 posted 12-07-2010 12:52 AM

AAright.. Charleton Heston’d be PROUD…
And yes this has wondered many leagues from crummy SiFi , recycled persons , planet of the apes , etc and final finishes for
people..But I think that’s what Poopiekat always aims for..something totaly going where no man, or ape, has gone before ! (mind you the soylent book was pretty good…..... ;-) ...}
And 11 sec VW’s are scarey fast, and VERY explosive Eh ?

-- Glen, B.C. Canada

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#11 posted 12-07-2010 01:31 AM

You got that right glen, doing 120 at the top end would make the rear of the vehicle sway back and forth with slicks on it. Every time down the track was like my first! God I miss that car….

Also had a friend with a low 10 sec bug and on one pass the block decided to just leg go, literally. Broke or umm, exploded into a million pieces. Ahhh, the price you pay to go fast

-- Childress Woodworks

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#12 posted 12-07-2010 03:15 AM

I can’t look at a VW engine without wanting to barf….I got nailed for speeding in Pima County, Arizona. The overzealous idiots busted me for possession of a supposedly stolen VW engine, which I was transporting home for the neighbor kid, who was building a dune buggy. This poor excuse of a cop radio’ed in the serial number of the motor, which we’d just picked up from a VW dealer in town. As I got tossed into the Pima County jail, this kid and his parents disavowed any participation in this heinous crime. My buddy, a UA student, got a copy of the police report, and went to the dealer for an explanation: The dealer almost pissed his pants…. the “serial Number” the cop radio’ed in was the part number cast into every VW generator support bracket!!!! That number has been reported a billion times whenever a stolen motor gets ID’d by a cop…it is, after all on the most prominent part of the motor. The Tucson Clerk of Court actually wrote me a note of apology on behalf of the Highway patrol nitwits. 30+ years later, I still don’t trust any cops or any neighbors, and adopted the attitude that good deeds never go unpunished. Now… I did help out a friend who did vinyl tile for a living… by doing the seal-coat and wax on many of his installations, back in the day. That’s how I know the scent of floor wax when I see it! Hey, we’re back on track now!!!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#13 posted 12-07-2010 03:23 AM

And I digress again!! My Soylent Green reference was indeed to the possibility that aqueous poly could in fact be something else. It was the only sci-fi movie that ever made me misty… when Sol ‘went home’. Charlton Heston’s tears were real, too. He was the only cast member who knew that Edward G Robinson had just days left to live, his battle with cancer took his life just days after the filming wrapped up. You must see it. Killdozer is a close second, one of the most awesome sci-fi movies ever made. Now how the heck do I segue back to Aqueous poly finishes now? Oh, ya know how to get more power out of a VW motor? It’s all in the cam. The #3 cylinder runs hotter than the others, so the #3 lobes are retarded a few degrees in relation to the others. This was in that book: “VW Care and repair for the Compleat (sic) Idiot” Or was it “Zen and Car Maintenance” ?? I don’t remember. I’m old.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#14 posted 12-07-2010 09:17 AM

I think one has to do more than just change the cam to get more power…...;-)

1915blothru1

And I think I am going to have to see that movie now that you brought it up. My wife loves older films, so it should make for a good date night!

-- Childress Woodworks

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#15 posted 12-07-2010 09:28 AM

BTW – the serial number is on the actual case, right under the alternator stand….The numbers on the stand itself refer to the firing order of the pistons… 1, 4, 3, 2. The numbers on the cases always caused confusion because most of them on the road are not original to the actual vehicles. They are mostly all after market cases made in mexico and never match with the year of the car. One thing a lot of off roaders have problems with (or used to) because the motors they put in have to match a make and model of an actual car. But none of the after market cases do because they were made after the bug went out of production (at least in the USA). I’ve had many friends have a lot of trouble trying to get an off road registration because of this very issue.

-- Childress Woodworks

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