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Fiddy

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06-14-2017 12:47 AM

Hey guys, so appears to be many threads on this saw, but here’s another. Just looking for any obvious information (apologies for not having more information now) on the saw in this picture. Met with the guy today. It’s been his saw and only used at home. Typical story, elderly and no longer able to use, really great guy. It’s a Powermatic 66 3HP SP. my reasoning for wanting this saw is overall impressions of this model and also a need for more power. I currently have a Jet hybrid saw which I’m beginning to dislike more and more – the more I work with some true hardwoods. I thought about listing the price in this post, but I feel that just brings about a focused conversation on who can find the same saw at a better price. I’m not looking to “steal” this saw, I just want to pay what I believe is fair and I think he’s already in that ballpark. With that all being said, let’s see what input there is.

Thanks!


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unbob

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#1 posted 06-14-2017 01:03 AM

That is a real saw! The extra wide right hand extension is very sought after.
The 66 is considered by many to be the best 10” saw ever made. The prices keep going up locally, and they do sell fast.
Yes, dump that dismal hybrid junk.

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Fiddy

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#2 posted 06-14-2017 01:29 AM

Thanks Unbob – definitely looking forward to making some dust with it. I was cutting quite a bit of hard maple lately and really beginning to hate my current saw. Just doesn’t have any guts to get through that stuff. I know this would take care of those issues for me.

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JBrow

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#3 posted 06-14-2017 02:47 AM

Fiddy,

The pictured saw looks identical to my Powermatic 66 table saw. I bought it new in late 1997 for $2100. The only difference is that I paid the extra $100 for the 5 hp. motor. I am a hobbyist, so the extent of my use is probably similar to the current owner’s use of the saw. My only experience with table saws is a Craftsman 1 hp. table saw and the PM 66. Therefore, I cannot verify unbob’s statement that the PM 66 may be the “best 10” saw ever made”, but I can say that it has been and continues to be a great saw that has consistently done everything I have asked and it is far superior to the Craftsman it replaced.

Since 1997, it was moved long distance on two separate occasions. Last year I checked to ensure the blade and fence remained parallel to the mitre slot and found no adjustment was required. I have never had to make any re-adjustments. The only maintenance has been occasionally pumping grease into a grease zerk fitting near the motor shaft and lubricating the gears that tilt and raise the blade.

The only problem I encountered was the green extension table surface began delaminating about a 1 or 2 ago. Somehow I manage to get enough contact cement into the void to re-attach the green surface to the substrate.

The only drawbacks with the PM 66 in my mind are the absence of a riving and poorly thought out dust collection. I contacted Powermatic but was told they had not developed a riving knife retrofit. I use the blade guard and integrated splitter with the anti-kickback pawls whenever I can. When I remove the guard and then reinstall it, it installs in the exact correct position every time.

Even with a 5 hp. dust collector and lower and upper 4” dust ports (I added the upper 4” dust port), plenty of dust accumulates in the cabinet. Like most table saws without above the blade dust collection, dust is cast out on the table surface with a fair amount landing on my trousers.

Offhand I would think the PM 66 3 hp. table saw shown in the photos would be a value at $1000 to $1500. This assumes that it is in good working order, has not been abused, and runs smoothly.

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BurlyBob

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#4 posted 06-14-2017 05:46 AM

That’s exactly the saw I was holding out for but ended up with a Delta x5 for a variety of reasons. That PM66 is without a doubt the best table saw ever made. If you pass it up you are a total fool!!!!

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Fiddy

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#5 posted 06-14-2017 09:53 AM

JBrow, thank you for the input – coicidentally the only issue he had was the top left corner or the side table delaminated some. Aside from that it’s in perfect shape. Pricing is right in line as well. Thanks again, I’ll keep you posted when I get it in.

BurlyBob, I agree – already schedule to pick up this week. Pretty excited!!

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Fred Hargis

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#6 posted 06-14-2017 10:46 AM

You are one lucky dog, that one really looks nice.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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Woodmaster1

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#7 posted 06-14-2017 11:47 AM

I had two pm66 when I taught and they were purchased in 1968 and still in use today after 50 years of abuse by students.

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JBrow

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#8 posted 06-14-2017 03:37 PM

Fiddy,

I had considered just replacing the green side table, but thought I might save some work by trying to re-gluing the laminate to the substrate. I am surprised that the contact cement actually worked and is holding up. But replacing the side table would be a fairly easy thing to do.

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BurlyBob

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#9 posted 06-14-2017 03:59 PM

Fiddy, that’s outstanding. I know you will never regret owning that saw. I envy you.

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Fiddy

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#10 posted 06-18-2017 09:43 PM

So today I went and picked up the saw. Worked out well as he has a chain pulley on his center beam in the garage. We were able to hoist it up on the trailer rather easily. Made it back home and I was able to use my front loader to get off trailer and into the garage. Here’s where the good part comes in – messing around with the saw and cleaning off some dust. I went to clean out the cabinet and to put some oil on. I began to wipe some dust off the motor and realized it’s a 5hp and not a 3hp!! Still single phase and original Powermatic/Baldor motor. Pretty excited – tomorrow I’m running my 220 cord to the saw and will be trying it out. I’ll keep you posted!

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BurlyBob

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#11 posted 06-19-2017 12:31 AM

You lucky dog!

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AandCstyle

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#12 posted 06-19-2017 08:24 PM

Fiddy, since you asked what a fair price would be, would you care to share that with the rest of us? I have the 3hp version and have never thought about replacing it. It is solid as a rock.

-- Art

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Holbs

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#13 posted 06-19-2017 10:00 PM

I brought my PM66 home in the back of my pickup. Lifted it up by myself…got it out solo. Wasn’t easy :) Really surprised there is no “how to ” video on youtube or anything on how to manage a full sized cabinet saw yourself in & out of pickup bed.

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter

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Fiddy

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#14 posted 06-19-2017 11:21 PM

Hey bud, no problem – I’ll preface with this. I didn’t go in attempting to get it for the best possible price. The gentleman was older and a great guy. The saw was bought buy him, used by home and not commercially. Everything was included and in great shape considering it’s a 97. All said, he was asking $1,500 after being at $2,000 for some time. I gave him exactly what he was asking and didn’t haggle. One of those moments where I felt I was instantly repayed for that. As mentioned, it turned out to be 5hp, first bonus. What I didn’t elaborate on yesterday was that I called him on Saturday apologizing for not getting cash out on Saturday morning and asked if he’d like to change date for pick up. He said no problem and that he trusted me from our previous interaction and that a check would do. Sunday came and he just requested I get him the cash as he didn’t want to hassle with a check. Simply sent me on my way and said “I won’t call you”. Today I promptly brought him the cash. Caught up for some time and then he gave me a like new Freud Dado set along with a tapering jig and some various Starret angle finders. Again, I felt as though it was a fair deal to begin with and that was just the icing on the deal. Long and short – I have been taught and continue to feel as though when both parties walk away from a deal and just feel good, then it was in fact a good deal. If I felt like “yep, I got one over on him” then not a so good deal and otherwise. That’s why I chose not to make this post about the price beforehand. Sorry for the long version, thought it was worth sharing. Long and short, here in NE Ohio, I’d say $1,500 would be a fair price for your saw, but that is up to your prospective buyer.


Fiddy, since you asked what a fair price would be, would you care to share that with the rest of us? I have the 3hp version and have never thought about replacing it. It is solid as a rock.

- AandCstyle


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Fiddy

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#15 posted 06-19-2017 11:26 PM

Holbs – impressive. I’m a big guy but 600lb is where I draw the line. I’d like hear more about this. Assuming there is quite the technique behind that and maybe a hernia or two…


I brought my PM66 home in the back of my pickup. Lifted it up by myself…got it out solo. Wasn t easy :) Really surprised there is no “how to ” video on youtube or anything on how to manage a full sized cabinet saw yourself in & out of pickup bed.

- Holbs


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