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Bill White

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06-13-2017 01:48 PM

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A red oak project. Well sanded and prepped. Using sample boards.
Apply alcohol based espresso dye and get a greenish tinge.
Topped that with a bit of dark walnut MinWax stain and get some red showing up. The basic color is fine with the exception of those background tints.
How can I just get an even very dark color without calling in the mystics, flinging dead cats in the air, and muttering incantations?
As always, I appreciate the help.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us


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pintodeluxe

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#1 posted 06-13-2017 03:21 PM

Red oak is prone to show red highlights under the stain.
Gel stains conceal the grain and underlying color more than liquid stains. Sometimes this works for you, and sometimes this works against you depending on your goals.

Post some pictures if you would please.

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#2 posted 06-13-2017 06:58 PM

Two ways I’ve used with great success.

Sugi Ban – Burn the wood with a propane torch, practice on some scrap. you can sand off the black and bring the color to just where you want it.

Mix up some strong black tea, about 4 teabags for a cup of water. Soak some 0001 steel wool in white vinegar overnight. 1 roll for about 12 oz of water.

When the solutions are ready, paint the wood with the black tea and let it dry or dry it with a heat gun. Paint the steel wool solution on and let it develop to the color you want then hit it with the heat gun to stop it.

Sand lightly and apply finish.

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#3 posted 06-13-2017 08:16 PM

Tea and Steel wool solution on the bottom, So Sugi Ban method on the top. The advantage that the solution method has is that it will not warp the wood, whereas the risk of warping is greater with the burning method, but if your oak is at least 3/4”, it probably won’t warp.


Tea and steel wool

So Sugi Ban

-- There are good ships and there are wood ships, the ships that sail the sea, but the best ships are friendships and may they always be. http://www.geraldlhunsucker.com/

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#4 posted 06-13-2017 09:03 PM

Not 3/4” for sure. This is a rather thin wood wall shelf.
No structural probs at all. Just tryin’ to get the color corrected.
Bill

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#5 posted 06-13-2017 09:36 PM

Bill, I tried black TransTint dye on red oak and got a deep grape juice color. Jeff Jewitt suggested I use black Minwax stain over the TT and it worked great. You may be able to do something similar. FWIW

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