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jimr66

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06-11-2017 10:00 PM

Topic tags/keywords: desert low humidity high temperatures

We’ve moved from coastal SoCal to the low desert, near Palm Springs. As July and August approach, I’m concerned about my power tools in the garage. I’m probably going to buy a portable air conditioner, but can’t find one without a dehumidifier. Of course, I need to add humidity, not remove it. (Single-digit humidity is common here.)

Have any of you desert folks had problems with large and/or small power tools? Of course, I keep any batteries, electronic measuring devices, etc. inside the house, but my SawStop, planer, SCMS, etc. are in the garage, subject to low humidity and summer temps of 110 degs and higher. (I’ll post a separate message here in hand tools, focused on wood-handle shrinkage.)

Any lessons learned or suggestions?

Thank you much!

jim


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EricTwice

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#1 posted 06-11-2017 10:49 PM

My dad had his power tools in a garage in grand junction Colo. for years. That is high desert. We recorded temps over 120 deg with 5% humidity in the summer.

No issues. Nothing rusted at all. no deterioration on the rubber or plastic parts.

I oiled the wood parts on the hand tools while I was there visiting. A couple of wooden planes that were used to the east coast had to be tuned up. (bottoms flattened, blades seated, that sort of thing) I cut 1/4 inch off the end of a socket chisel handle. It shrunk so much the blade would not tighten even with a paper shim.

that’s about it.

-- nice recovery, They should pay extra for that mistake, Eric E.

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#2 posted 06-11-2017 11:10 PM

Here in Tucson, the weather right now is 97º and 6% humidity. We’re in the middle of a short cool spell, and it’ll be back up over 100 in a couple of days.

My tools have not shown any signs of suffering. I do keep all of my glue, adhesive tape and finishing supplies indoors.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#3 posted 06-11-2017 11:32 PM

110 is nothing for power tools. The only way low humidity affects your saw it lowers chance of rust so sleep tight.
I would be more concerned about retirees complaining about the noise. :-)

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#4 posted 06-12-2017 12:05 AM

The place the op is talking about will 112+ in the shade.I doubt thier will be any woodworking during the day. I did some roofing jobs out there and it’s brutal.

-- Aj

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Rich

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#5 posted 06-12-2017 12:59 AM


I would be more concerned about retirees complaining about the noise. :-)

So true. When we were looking to downsize from our horse property a couple of years ago, I had two things I needed guaranteed. One was that my power tools were OK to use and, two, that I could fire up the smoker for my 20-hour briskets. You wouldn’t believe how many communities had rules like, no power tools except when used by contractors for approved work. Also, no charcoal grills in some. Unbelievable.

We finally found an acre and a half quite close in that was part of a three acre parcel that was split, so I only have one neighbor, and he’s 80+ and hard of hearing. There are also no HOAs or covenants to restrict me. Life is good.


The place the op is talking about will 112+ in the shade.I doubt thier will be any woodworking during the day. I did some roofing jobs out there and it’s brutal.

—Aj

I do it Aj. 105, 110, I’m out there in the shop. Just gotta stay hydrated.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#6 posted 06-12-2017 01:31 AM

We live in a semi-arid location (about 60 miles south of Grand Junction). Very low humidity. I have all kinds of tools both hand and power and don’t see any problems except cord deterioration if left in sunlight for very long.

Well, there is a slight problem. It is so dry in my garage that the shavings from my planes will stick to the plane and my bench and anything else. I think it is static causing it because it is so dry. I watch Richard Maguire using a hand plane and marvel at the big long shavings coming from his planes. Here you get very tight curls that you can’t hardly shake off your hand if you pick one up.

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Rich

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#7 posted 06-12-2017 01:41 AM



We live in a semi-arid location (about 60 miles south of Grand Junction). Very low humidity. I have all kinds of tools both hand and power and don t see any problems except cord deterioration if left in sunlight for very long.

Well, there is a slight problem. It is so dry in my garage that the shavings from my planes will stick to the plane and my bench and anything else. I think it is static causing it because it is so dry. I watch Richard Maguire using a hand plane and marvel at the big long shavings coming from his planes. Here you get very tight curls that you can t hardly shake off your hand if you pick one up.

- BlasterStumps

Same here. After doing a bunch of panel raising the whole router station, power cord and all, look like it just snowed.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#8 posted 06-12-2017 07:32 PM

Thank you all very much!

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jimr66

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#9 posted 06-12-2017 07:35 PM

I’m having the same problem with my chisels. My LN socket chisels won’t snug sufficiently – which is downright dangerous with socket chisels. My Japanese chisels’ hoops are all very loose.


My dad had his power tools in a garage in grand junction Colo. for years. That is high desert. We recorded temps over 120 deg with 5% humidity in the summer. No issues. Nothing rusted at all. no deterioration on the rubber or plastic parts.

I oiled the wood parts on the hand tools while I was there visiting. A couple of wooden planes that were used to the east coast had to be tuned up. (bottoms flattened, blades seated, that sort of thing) I cut 1/4 inch off the end of a socket chisel handle. It shrunk so much the blade would not tighten even with a paper shim.

that s about it.

- EricTwice


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Desert_Woodworker

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#10 posted 06-13-2017 02:33 AM

Dude- may I suggest that you study “monsoons in the deseert and the humidity” You may want to consider protectiong or asking about that Saw Stop and its electronics….given your situation.

-- Desert_Woodworker

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Rich

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#11 posted 06-13-2017 03:13 AM


Dude- may I suggest that you study “monsoons in the deseert and the humidity” You may want to consider protectiong or asking about that Saw Stop and its electronics….given your situation.

As a Tucson resident, I’m all too familiar with monsoonal weather patterns. As a degreed electrical engineer, I’m quite familiar with circuitry. Can you educate me on the connection?

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#12 posted 06-13-2017 03:47 AM

They built the whole city of Las Vegas with power tool. No problem

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#13 posted 06-13-2017 03:47 AM


Dude- may I suggest that you study “monsoons in the deseert and the humidity” You may want to consider protectiong or asking about that Saw Stop and its electronics….given your situation.

As a Tucson resident, I m all too familiar with monsoonal weather patterns. As a degreed electrical engineer, I m quite familiar with circuitry. Can you educate me on the connection?

- RichTaylor


:popcorn:

-- Random Orbital Nailer

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AlaskaGuy

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#14 posted 06-13-2017 04:04 AM

jimr66

“I’m having the same problem with my chisels. My LN socket chisels won’t snug sufficiently – which is downright dangerous with socket chisels. My Japanese chisels’ hoops are all very loose.”

That what socket chisels do. My LN chisels need a wack every time I use them if it’s been a while even when it 80% Humidity.

Why Socketed Chisels Turn Loose by Paul Sellers.

https://paulsellers.com/2014/03/socketed-chisels-turn-loose/

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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Desert_Woodworker

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#15 posted 06-13-2017 04:11 AM

Dude- may I suggest that you study “monsoons in the deseert and the humidity” You may want to consider protectiong or asking about that Saw Stop and its electronics….given your situation.

As a Tucson resident, I m all too familiar with monsoonal weather patterns. As a degreed electrical engineer, I m quite familiar with circuitry. Can you educate me on the connection?

- RichTaylor

:popcorn:

- Dark_Lightning

For those of you Jocks who don’t understand “popcorn”- this is “its” way of, again being a provocateur, who has been “blocked”. To those who want to add to this post- What about that Saw Stop? Will it make it in that environment?

-- Desert_Woodworker

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