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06-10-2017 12:13 AM

Just a verification needed. I need to drill 2 holes to match up on my PM lathe. I can’t get up under the ways to find my centers, but can get the distance from outside to outside of each Allen bolt head. The distance is 4”, the bolt head is .550”. If I subtract the size of one bolt head from the 4”, leaving 3.45” on center, would that match up to the PM holes?........ Jerry (in Tucson)

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#1 posted 06-10-2017 12:49 AM

Seems right.

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#2 posted 06-10-2017 12:58 AM

That would be center to center measurement.

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#3 posted 06-10-2017 01:18 AM

Yup you got it jerry!

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#4 posted 06-10-2017 02:51 AM

Thanks, guys, I thought that was it, but old age, ya know…... Now I’ll proceed and get some stuff set up for my lathe. .......... Jerry (in Tucson)

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#5 posted 06-10-2017 11:58 AM

You could also measure from outside of one to inside of the second which is equivalent to subtracting the diameter. The advantage being you don’t need to know bold diameter.

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#6 posted 06-10-2017 01:59 PM



You could also measure from outside of one to inside of the second which is equivalent to subtracting the diameter. The advantage being you don t need to know bold diameter.

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If my poor old legs, tired old body, and real old eyes would have let me me do it that way, that would have been my preferred method.There wasn’t really enough room for the calipers with out interference from the lathe body, so I took the easiest measurement and figured I could do the math. Then senior moment stepped in, and cause me to have second thoughts about what I just did….

When looking for hole centers, 99% of the time it’s done the way you mentioned

Better yet, if Powermatic would have heeded my suggestion of putting all leg mounting holes on the outside instead of up and under the ways, I wouldn’t have had a need to ask this question. :O).......... Jerry (in Tucson)

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#7 posted 08-02-2017 05:13 PM

You will get close, but not exactly. There is a clearance around each bolt, so the center of the bolt is not necessarily the center of the hole.

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#8 posted 08-02-2017 06:48 PM

Like hotbyte I measure from left side to left side, or outside to inside, however you want to say it. But whatever works, works.

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#9 posted 08-06-2017 09:13 PM

Jerry; Just buy another lathe and measure before you put it together. Rick M. has the idea on the nose!

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#10 posted 08-07-2017 03:46 PM


Jerry; Just buy another lathe and measure before you put it together. Rick M. has the idea on the nose!

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Jack, I can’t even afford to pay attention. How do you expect me to buy another lathe?

I already did what I had to. I have been using Ricks and hotbytes method for at least the last 20 years, or maybe longer. Just about 3 months ago when I wanted to drill the holes, I had a mental fart, and couldn’t remember how. That’s why I posted this question, just to verify. At almost 71 years old, things are starting to take a little longer to remember. Just like an old computer, I’m getting slow.


You will get close, but not exactly. There is a clearance around each bolt, so the center of the bolt is not necessarily the center of the hole.

- MrRon

I’m gonna disagree Ron. If both holes are the same size, center is center. The only time the bolts won’t be in the center is if the holes are oversized, and you just screw the bolts in or the holes were drilled different than the mating holes. ........... Jerry (in Tucson)

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#11 posted 08-08-2017 03:08 AM


Jerry; Just buy another lathe and measure before you put it together. Rick M. has the idea on the nose!

- Jack Lewis

Jack, I can t even afford to pay attention. How do you expect me to buy another lathe?

I already did what I had to. I have been using Ricks and hotbytes method for at least the last 20 years, or maybe longer. Just about 3 months ago when I wanted to drill the holes, I had a mental fart, and couldn t remember how. That s why I posted this question, just to verify. At almost 71 years old, things are starting to take a little longer to remember. Just like an old computer, I m getting slow.

You will get close, but not exactly. There is a clearance around each bolt, so the center of the bolt is not necessarily the center of the hole.

- MrRon

I m gonna disagree Ron. If both holes are the same size, center is center. The only time the bolts won t be in the center is if the holes are oversized, and you just screw the bolts in or the holes were drilled different than the mating holes. ........... Jerry (in Tucson)

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