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Greg Gimbel

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06-08-2017 01:21 AM

Trying to get a feel for how strong the custom furniture market is. I know for us there have always been the up and downs. No need to share profit margins but how busy is everyone?
Roaring Fork Custom Billiards

-- Greg Gimbel, Rifle, Colorado, http://roaringforkcustombilliards.com


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mahdee

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#1 posted 06-08-2017 01:41 AM

I am pretty busy but I work full time and make things on the side. Shipping is my biggest problem that I refuse to tackle on large products (pelleting and so on). I had a shelf order from HW (72”X 16”X 6”) $360. puuuffff. Another item to CA and the shipping was almost as much as the item’s price but the customer was will to pay for it. Maybe I am doing something wrong. Locally, I sell enough stuff to keep me busy enough.

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Greg Gimbel

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#2 posted 06-08-2017 01:50 AM



I am pretty busy but I work full time and make things on the side. Shipping is my biggest problem that I refuse to tackle on large products (pelleting and so on). I had a shelf order from HW (72”X 16”X 6”) $360. puuuffff. Another item to CA and the shipping was almost as much as the item s price but the customer was will to pay for it. Maybe I am doing something wrong. Locally, I sell enough stuff to keep me busy enough.

- mahdee


Yeah the shipping can be quite the hassle. Good to hear you stay pretty busy. keep up the good work!!

-- Greg Gimbel, Rifle, Colorado, http://roaringforkcustombilliards.com

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Monte Pittman

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#3 posted 06-08-2017 02:07 AM

Running my tale off. I work full-time besides spending another 40-60 hours a week in the shop. It’s definitely related to what area you are in, what you want to make and how dedicated you are to do it. It’s not a get-rich-quick deal. Lots of work to build up a business.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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Greg Gimbel

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#4 posted 06-08-2017 02:47 AM



Running my tale off. I work full-time besides spending another 40-60 hours a week in the shop. It s definitely related to what area you are in, what you want to make and how dedicated you are to do it. It s not a get-rich-quick deal. Lots of work to build up a business.

- Monte Pittman


I see you are in Whitewood, SD. I was born and raised in Menno, SD. Happy to see your that busy. Looked at some of your projects and they look great!! Keep up the great work!

-- Greg Gimbel, Rifle, Colorado, http://roaringforkcustombilliards.com

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jbay

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#5 posted 06-08-2017 02:55 AM

Busy. Normally have jobs waiting, but right now just the jobs on my plate.
So not as busy as usual, but still keeping busy and have irons in the fire.

-- If anyone would like to see my Portfolio, PM me and I would be glad to send you the link.

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CharlesNeil

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#6 posted 06-08-2017 11:43 AM

up to my ears ..

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bigblockyeti

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#7 posted 06-08-2017 12:45 PM

I try to make mostly small items that people want to give as gifts, I don’t like making anything on spec that isn’t very easy to store. A lot of the custom work I do is ideas customers bring to me with specific dimensions and I can usually be as busy as I want with that work. For me this is a hobby and while the prospect of doing for a living sounds interesting it also sounds looks a good way to take something I really enjoy and turn it into something I loath. I try to keep my profit margins where I could make a living wage doing this if I were very busy, which again is not what I’m interested in as of now. I’ll take on a larger project (like a mantle or dresser) every once in a while but the space a not yet assembled larger project can take up can be very restricting, especially when working on multiple projects as once. Even not doing this to support my family, I’m always looking for ways that I could (not necessarily will) improve efficiency and capability. The latter being a slippery slope because it more often that not creates a new want like an 18”+ planer or 3’ x 5’ CNC router or a saw mill and solar kiln, etc. In short, I’m just as busy as I want with actual wood working but far busier thinking about what I want to do next.

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buckbuster31

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#8 posted 06-08-2017 01:37 PM

I still 6-8 months backed up at all times. Its not that I’m slow at doing work, I just have so many orders that I cant keep my head above water. Being a full time State Farm agent doesn’t help but I still work 40 hours a week in the shop too.

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JAAune

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#9 posted 06-10-2017 06:26 AM

Pretty busy. Customers keep myself and my employee working a combined 100+ hours per week. There’s no way I could take on all the leads that come my way so I have to be selective otherwise the backlog jumps to several months and clients start getting antsy waiting for me to get started.

But not all my jobs are custom furniture. I’m a components supplier for a few companies which is a big reason why I never have slow periods.

-- See my work at http://remmertstudios.com and http://altaredesign.com

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Carloz

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#10 posted 06-10-2017 10:56 AM

^^^^^
If you are so backed up why not to hire more people and expand ?

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becikeja

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#11 posted 06-10-2017 01:23 PM


In short, I m just as busy as I want with actual wood working but far busier thinking about what I want to do next.

- bigblockyeti

Never heard it put like this, but this is exactly where I am. Well said

-- Don't outsmart your common sense

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JackDuren

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#12 posted 06-10-2017 01:59 PM

Haven’t missed a beat in several years. Have been looking for a full time apprentice for a few years. Last guy had 27 years under belt but was more residential/commercial oriented and less on furniture…

We ship all over the world….

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JAAune

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#13 posted 06-10-2017 02:58 PM



^^^^^
If you are so backed up why not to hire more people and expand ?

- Carloz

I will but prefer to build up slowly. For starters, I like being selective since not all leads turn into good jobs. I also don’t quite have enough potential work for a third full-timer and finding a skilled part-timer willing to work random hours is not easy. There aren’t many people that can work to the standards of myself or my employee and the ones that can rarely need a job. The best workers can pretty much choose where they want to work.

Hiring an unskilled guy at minimum wage and training him for two years would be even harder to do. I’ve never had any response to any ads for a low-paid apprentice. But ocassionally, experienced people find out about me and express interest in working here. That’s how I got my two hires (one moved on and one is still here).

-- See my work at http://remmertstudios.com and http://altaredesign.com

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JackDuren

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#14 posted 06-10-2017 04:19 PM


^^^^^
If you are so backed up why not to hire more people and expand ?

- Carloz

I will but prefer to build up slowly. For starters, I like being selective since not all leads turn into good jobs. I also don t quite have enough potential work for a third full-timer and finding a skilled part-timer willing to work random hours is not easy. There aren t many people that can work to the standards of myself or my employee and the ones that can rarely need a job. The best workers can pretty much choose where they want to work.

Hiring an unskilled guy at minimum wage and training him for two years would be even harder to do. I ve never had any response to any ads for a low-paid apprentice. But ocassionally, experienced people find out about me and express interest in working here. That s how I got my two hires (one moved on and one is still here).

- JAAune

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