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Forum topic by newwoodbutcher posted 11-29-2010 11:57 PM 1219 views 0 times favorited 5 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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11-29-2010 11:57 PM

I’m building a cherry bed using an incredible piece of quilted cherry re-sawed into 3/16 veneer on the headboard. I’ve been struggling with the design of the foot of the bed legs and came up with the idea of using the quilted cherry veneer over a double tapered leg (tapered from 2” to 4” within 15”). I ‘m not comfortable laminating onto solid wood so I’m thinking I can make 3/4” thick panels covered in the veneer. I’ve used MDF as substrate in the past but am worried that the MDF won’t be strong enough for the weight on the legs or to hold onto the applied moldings in my design. So I’m thinking Baltic Birch as a substrate. Any of you have experience using Baltic Birch as a substrate? Since the veneer is so thick I’m not too worried about ply imperfections showing through. Your thoughts?

-- Ken


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#1 posted 12-18-2010 04:09 PM

Would the edges of the plywood present a problem with good glue adhesion. I’m thinking that beds get dragged on floors, especially carpeted floors, which may peel the veneer off the edges over time. I guess thick veneer would mitigate this somewhat, but I’d sure be leary about a lamination in this application. Could you not just use solid cherry for the legs?

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#2 posted 12-18-2010 04:30 PM

I’ve used plywood as a substrate when veneering panels for projects and have not had any issues with it. I fill any noticeable voids and imperfections and sand it as smooth as I can before I glue up. Some of these have moved from Oregon to California and back over the years. They’ve never yet had any issues with de-lamination or defects in the glue up. I’ve never used thick veneer though, usually 1/42 or a bit thicker. So I might wonder about how humidity changes will affect 3/4 ply with a 3/16 veneer only on one side. I’d probably be inclined to do a glue up on the opposing side with a similar thickness veneer, and maybe even align the grain direction so that it is perpendicular. Maybe it depends on the quality and # of ply of the substrate though.

-- Dale, Oregon

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#3 posted 12-18-2010 05:13 PM

I agree veneering panes should be super reliable and resistant to wear, I was imagining an edge of the veneer on the legs catching on the carpet as someone dragged the bed to vacuum under the bed and seeing the veneer peel back from the edge grain glued plywood. I’d certainly defer to your greater experience with veneering!

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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#4 posted 12-18-2010 05:22 PM

You’re probably right Mark, it’s a very good point. Maybe he could even use hardwood trim on the bottom of the legs. What were your thoughts Ken? Will you have trim or some sort of decoration on the top and bottom of your legs?

-- Dale, Oregon

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#5 posted 12-18-2010 05:44 PM

If four inches is your greatest width, I’m wondering why you’re reluctant to glue the veneer on solid stock. That’s well within the realm of what one finds regularly on older pieces.

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