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Forum topic by TurbineTester posted 11-29-2010 10:26 PM 3228 views 0 times favorited 32 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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TurbineTester

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11-29-2010 10:26 PM

So i cashed in a bunch of my lowe’s AMEX Business Card points, and i have $325 in gift cards. I would like to use these to help with the purchase of a miter saw. I’d prefer to buy a tool that i can use for a lifetime, not a starter or less accurate model. Right now lowes has a deal on the DeWalt 12” Sliding Compound Miter saw where you get the $200 stand for free when you buy the saw. I thought that made it a pretty good deal, but i don’t want to jump on anything with out getting a few opions first. I read some reviews of the new Bosch saw with the Glide setup, but the cutting height isn’t as large as they would lead you to believe according to a 3 star review of it by a consumer on amazon.com.

I don’t really have a hard and fast budget on this, i just need to get it from lowes. What would you pick?

-- if you can't light a $100 bill on fire and watch it burn, you're in the wrong hobby.


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wseand

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#1 posted 11-29-2010 10:41 PM

I have nothing but good things to say about the Dewalt DW718 SCMS if that is the one you are looking at. I am a Dewalt nutcase so I may be a little prejudice. I have only had it 3 years but have put it through the paces and not a prob.

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy

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#2 posted 11-29-2010 10:51 PM

I have the dewalt dw716 12” double level miter saw and I love it. The accuracy and quality of the saw is very nice and the miter detents are spot on after they were set. The saw you mentioned is practically the same as mine but adds the sliding feature. I’ve never had the need for a big sliding saw and prefer the much smaller footprint of a non- slider. The dewalt stand isn’t the best in my opinion, I have the ridgid MSUV stand that collapses down and is super portable and is a great buy but is only at home depot. I don’t know if lowes has a similar stand but they are nice to have unless you plan on never moving the saw. The dewalt saws don’t come with any extra features such as laser blade markers or crown stops but they are available separate. Good luck with your hunt for a new saw.

-- Drew, Delaware

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#3 posted 11-29-2010 11:03 PM

I have never been to fond of dewalt but I guess I just don’t like the yellow paint haha because I do have a dewalt planer and had a dewalt table saw at one time and had no complaints with either. I did see the one that you are talking about and I almost wished I didn’t have a miter saw because that is a great deal for that saw with the stand. I would jump all over that while it is still available if I were you.

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#4 posted 11-29-2010 11:21 PM

Dont even look at Craftsman….I have a soon to be boat anchor of one. My next will be a Bosch I think, not the new articulating model however.

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#5 posted 11-29-2010 11:26 PM

The New Bosch is on my Drool… I mean Tool List RB-GCM12 it is a called a glide rather than a slider. Rather than the rails that take up space there is a set of elbows that have less play and flex than the rail system. It is big bucks… but you mentioned you wanted a lifetime tool…. I have a non-slider from Bosch and like it, but this has me drooling.

It doesn’t need as much space as the rails don’t stick out the back!

-- 'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' ~George Carlin

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#6 posted 11-29-2010 11:33 PM

I am a Bosch fan too, Ok so I am not very loyal. Love my Bosch TS, trim router, and Router table. But I still have to go with the Dewalt SCMS.

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy

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#7 posted 11-29-2010 11:34 PM

I started drooling over the new bosch as well when I first saw it. I then went in a tool store that sells and repairs delta, powermatic, jet, bosch, dewalt, and pretty much any other big brand. I asked him if he had one in stock because I just wanted to see one in person. He told me he didn’t have one and didn’t know if he would because all of the moving parts with the hinge system really scared him as far as tearing up. That was just what he thought but I don’t know if he had actually used one. Personally I love the ideal of the saw and would buy one in a heart beat if I were going to spend that kind of money on one. As I said before though that dewalt with the stand is a really good price compared to regular price. They will probably both last you a very long time so it is really up to you and you will have to determine if a few extra inches or a few hundred bucks is worth more to you personally.

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#8 posted 11-29-2010 11:38 PM

I use and like my Makita SCMS, but I will respond to your question differently than just pushing my brand.

IMO -

- For most of us, 10” is sufficient. 12” costs more and takes up more space.
- A relatively high fence is a good idea.
- If you are going to do any compound cuts, it is great to be able to tilt the blade without going to the back of the saw.
- Smooth movement and solid and accurate indents are highly desirable
- Support arms to both sides are particularly nice if you are not going to set it up on a special table
- I’ve never seen a miter saw that was sold with a very good blade. Plane on buying a good blade after you get the saw (unless you buy a festool).

Finally – I have never seen a miter saw that does a good job with dust control but some are better than others. That’s important to me. It may not be to some others.

All things considered, I believe that Festool is the best, but it is expensive. Sometimes, if you are patient and lucky, you can get a good deal on a used festool on e-bay or elsewhere. I’d buy a good used festool before I would buy any other brand new.

Hope this helps.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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#9 posted 11-30-2010 12:12 AM

I can’t argue with Rich on the festool. If you simply want the best out there and money is not an option then buy festool and don’t even consider the others.

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#10 posted 11-30-2010 03:54 AM

No doubt, i would love to get a festool, but as far as i can tell they don’t sell them at Lowes. I’m not terribly concerned about dust collection on the saw itself as I’ll be using a dust collection hood connected to a ClearVue Cyclone. I don’t plan on moving the saw from my garage to a job site. Probably just from a shelf to the saw stand when i need it and back when i’m done, so portability is not much of an issue either.

I really do like the sexy look of that articulating arm on the new Bosch GCMS (Gliding Compound Miter Saw) :-) but…here’s a link to the amazon web page where the bottom reviewer, who’s a finish carpenter, only gave it three stars because of it’s inability to cut 6” crown on the left AND right side of the blade…

http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-GCM12SD-120-Volt-12-Inch-Glide/dp/B004323NNC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1291081865&sr=8-1

Any thoughts on that reviewers comment?

-- if you can't light a $100 bill on fire and watch it burn, you're in the wrong hobby.

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Joe Lyddon

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#11 posted 11-30-2010 04:06 AM

Yes!

The New Bosch is what I would aim for, if I had a fighting chance of being able to get it.

IMHO, it’s the BEST there is.

edit:
Well, I just read some of the Reviews on the Amazon site just posted…
... I guess it’s not what it’s cracked up to be!

Would depend on how you want to use it… Haven’t given that a lot of thought…
... except cutting up pieces to Final dimensions accurately.

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#12 posted 11-30-2010 06:15 AM

Like you, I wanted a good slider that I would use for a lifetime. I have not used the DeWalt however I have looked at it at it.

Take a look at the Milwaukee 12” SCMS. I get nice clean cuts, love the digital readout and built in lights. I have it mounted on a Skill stand and have it hooked up to the DC system which catches most all of the dust. It has one of the best dust chutes with plastic covers around the rear of the blade. Micro adjust lets you really dial it in beyond the indents. Bought mine on Ebay brand new and saved $150

You have to buy an adapter for DC since it has a stock rectangular adapter for the bag. (dumb if you ask me) other than that I love the thing and use it nearly every time I am in the shop.

Go for a 12” you won’t regret it.

-- Mike.... West Virginia. "Man is a tool using animal. Without tools he is nothing, with tools he is all.". T Carlyle

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TurbineTester

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#13 posted 11-30-2010 05:09 PM

hmmm. doesn’t look like Lowe’s sell milwaukee tools either…
Looks like Hitachi, DeWalt, Porter Cable, Bosch, Delta, Kobalt. Skill, Triton and Rockwell.

http://www.lowes.com/pl_Miter+Saws_4294857521_4294937087_?cm_cr=Power+Saws+and+Blades-_-Web+Activity-_-Power+Saws+and+Blades+A1+Activity+11.8.10-_-SC_Power+Saws++Blades_Area1-_-68612_1_espot_powersawsblades_mitersawstandbogo

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#14 posted 11-30-2010 07:43 PM

I second RichGreer’s post. I too have a Makita 10 SCMS and absolutely love it. I bought mine from http://www.reconditionedsales.com/Makita_LS1016L_10_Dual_Slide_Compound_Miter_Saw_w_Laser_(Reconditioned)___i2136.aspx and from what I can see it’s brand new. This was decided after reading countless reviews between Bosh, DeWalt and Makita with DeWalt being my original first choice.

Hitachi supposedly makes a really good MS, but I do not prefer their other tools though. Same with DeWalt and Bosh, each one makes a really good product. I like Bosh Routers better than DeWalt, but I prefer DeWalt cordless drills over Bosh.

If I had to pick, lord knows I go into lowes at least 2x per week I would probably get the Bosch. However, the Bosh they have at lowes doesn’t look as heavy duty as the DeWalt though.

Either way you go should do you good. Just make sure you get a good quality blade. Lowes now carries CMT which I believe is better than any other blade they carry in their store. Make sure you square everything up when setting it up and you should be good to go.

Good Luck.

Kevin

-- Williamsburg, KY

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Joe Lyddon

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#15 posted 11-30-2010 07:46 PM

I was into HD yesterday… wandered through the power tool dept…

I saw Milwakee tools… but I don’t remember about a Milw. Miter saw…

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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