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Forum topic by VerteramoFurniture7 posted 11-26-2010 07:42 PM 8254 views 1 time favorited 22 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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11-26-2010 07:42 PM

Hello all,

I’ve been looking at dust collection becuase I have a small basement shop on the unfinished side of my basement, which also shares the space with the water heater and heating system. I am sick of the fine layer of dust on the work shop side and some also on the finished side from me opening the door.

I want a dust collector that I can set up in the corner and run some hoses to my table saw, jointer, router, and maybe planer (I have the hose to trash can attachment on my 4 post dewalt) I will only be using one machine at a time.

I have had my eyes on the Jet DC-1100CK. I like that it has the top canister and is easy to clean. At work the top bags always get clogged up and puff out a cloud of dust when you start them up. I went down to the local woodcraft today on black friday to pick one up since they are on sale for $480 from $600. When I was there the guy there said he had a two Rikon 2hp dc that was $330 that he was marking down to $300. It didnt have the top canister but it was a 2hp unlike the jet which was a 1.5 hp.

I know the difference $180 dollars (210 if I go back and the two in stock are sold which is more than likely) but I am just wondering if the amount of money is worth it?

Do any of you guys own the 2hp Rikon or the Jet DC-1100CK?
Is the Canister top worth it?
Do I get more suction out of the canister top?
Am I comparing apple to apple with these two machines or is there a big quality difference that I am not seeing?

Any help would be great, before the 29th so I can get the Jet the sale price.

Also any other recomendations on Dust Collectors would be great.

i plann on going to the new england woodworking show in springfield, ma Jan 14-16 at the Big E. Do you think I will be able to get a good deal on a dust collector there?

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#1 posted 11-26-2010 09:17 PM

I think I’d go for it, that looks like a sweet deal!
I have one of these

and I am really happy with the performance
on my router table (biggest mess maker) and my tablesaw (second biggest mess maker)
And I’m thinking of going to a pre-filter, as well as a see-through bag
in the future.
Only drawback is “it’s loud!” I typically wear hearing protection when its running though.
Best of luck,

-- On the eighth day God was back in His woodworking shop! SteveW

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#2 posted 11-26-2010 09:19 PM

-- On the eighth day God was back in His woodworking shop! SteveW

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#3 posted 11-26-2010 09:26 PM

Just a quick suggestion … add a decent air filter system to the mix. The DC will go a long ways toward accomplishing what you want, but an air filter will help remove fine particles from the air.

I would also consider the Harbor Freight 2hp dust collector, and replace the top bag with a canister. For more on that, see dbhost’s workshop ( ).

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#4 posted 11-26-2010 09:27 PM

These are on sale often and are endosred by a few lumberjocks that have them.

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#5 posted 11-26-2010 10:01 PM

My shop is being referenced?! Wow that’s scary!

I would go for the 2HP unit anyway. The Jet canisters are 2 micron, which are too coarse… I would upgrade that ASAP to a 1 micron canister anyway… Wynn Environmental sells their 35A canister filter, with some great filtration media choices for a decent price (varies depending on what media you want, paper, spun bond poly, or the micro fiber stuff, I went with Spun Bond since it is cleanable / reusable.)

My dust collection isn’t 100% in place yet, but where it is, it works exceedingly well… (I am still sorting out dust hood issues on some of my tools).

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#6 posted 11-26-2010 10:04 PM

dbhost—Between the HF 2hp DC, the Wynn 35A, and miscellaneous stuff, what would you estimate your total dust collection investment is?

Didn’t mean to scare you!


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#7 posted 11-26-2010 10:21 PM

HF $139
Wynn 35A $106
Thien filter <$15 of parts and a couple hours of effort

Then it depends on how you connect. A quick connect and a couple of clamps is ~$10 plus 10’ of hose for $20, if you have collection ports on all your equipment and you want to manually move the DC from machine to machine that’s the cheapest way.

Otherwise, you have lengths of PVC pipe, 45 degree elbows, Y’s and blast gates for a permanent install.

If your machines don’t have dust ports, then you have to add the components for them

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#8 posted 11-26-2010 10:31 PM

HF 2 HP DC, I got mine before the price dropped to the $139.00 level, it was $141.00 after the coupon…

Okay here we go.

Dust collector $141.00
Wynn 35A Spun Bond Poly. $150.00 + S&H, which to my shipping zone is $36.00
Plastic 55 gallon drum for Thien separator, $25.00
5” x 48” slit loc pipe at Home Depot. $8.00
5” x 10’ dust collection hose from Grizzly. $18.00 (shipping was tacked on to my overhead filter).

The Canister addition not only improved my filtration, but HUGELY improved my air flow… Without the bag, I can believe the CFM claims on this thing. Likewise with running to a 5” port instead of running a single 4” line off of the DC…

All told, dust collector, separator, fittings, hose, overhead cleaner, blast gates etc… I have around $650.00 in to my dust collection system. That is NOT counting my shop vac based side of things, the ambient filter, or any of the custom hoods I have put in place or am working on… If I figured that all in, it would be closer to $1,100.00).

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#9 posted 11-26-2010 10:43 PM

CharlieL—That is some Thien separator! Nice rigid construction. How much does the barrel weight when it needs to be emptied?


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#10 posted 11-26-2010 11:18 PM

The 2hp Rikon unit looks exactly like the Harbor Freight unit. Coupon in Wood Magazine for $139.00. That will pay for the Wynn filter.

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#11 posted 11-27-2010 12:01 AM

Jet dust collectors , Rikon collectors, and Grizzly collector are made in the same factory.

I took a look at Harbor Freight dust collector, I didn’t like it. So I bought a Grizzly one. The G0583Z 1HP Canister Dust Collector is what I got. Works great. (see it in Avater)If I did it again I would get a 2HP version or higher.

I say go with Rikon, and add the canister.

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#12 posted 11-27-2010 12:27 AM

I looked at all the popular brands. Realized the only difference was paint color so I bought the least expensive one with the best warranty and exchange policy; that would be the Harbor Freight, 2hp. Cost $139 with a Wood magazine coupon. Could have saved a couple more dollars by finding the coupon in a cheaper magazine, but who wants to be that greedy?

I have said it on several other posts, and repeat here. I chose to just use the collector with the original 5 micron filter bag. I plan to add a separator soon to avoid chips and trash and screws from going through the fan impeller, and I think the metal can of the separator will be easier to empty than the bag on the collector. In fact I plan to put a plastic trash bag in the can with a sleeve of wire mesh inside to keep it from sucking closed. When it gets full, just pull the sleeve out, tie the bag closed and discard it.

The next and most important thing to add IMHO is an ambient filter. This filter will run all the time you are in the shop and gets the really fine dust out of the air. The noise of the dust collector will discourage continuous use; the air filter is very quiet and no problem. The air filter is what will really reduce the dust in the shop.

By the way, my shop is in my basement also.

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#13 posted 11-27-2010 12:28 AM

I have a Powermatic which is similar to the Jet unit you looked at. It happens to be 1 3/4 hp, but it works well. I like the canister and there is no dust when turning it on etc. I have never had the bag type so I have no experience with those. The canister type does get dusty when you remove the canister to take the collector bag off, but thats the only dust that I have experienced. It helps to turn it on and turn the handles at the top of the canister a bit to knock the dust off the filter before opening it.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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#14 posted 11-27-2010 02:38 AM

Can’t go wrong with the Harbor Freight @ HP dust collector. I’ve had one for 6 years, there GREAT and can’t beat the price.

-- Ray

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#15 posted 11-27-2010 02:42 AM

wow didnt expect 15 replies. (Make that 16 replys got raymonds while typing this) You guys rock!

At work we use the HF 2hp DC and I am not impressed with the top bag at all. Always seems to be having dust coming out the top and seems to clog up easy. But with the poly top I think that will solve that problem

After reading all of this, and looking up different add on canisters I think this is what I may do.

Find the wood magazine coupon then get a HF 2hp DC
Get the Wynn 35A Spun Bond Poly. $150.00 + S&H,($18)

Comes up to the price of the rikon. and still belive the jet with a better filter.

I also may use a lid seperator like this one on amazon.

have any of you guys used a lid seperator like this one or have you all built your own seperator?
the jet and penn canisters have that top thing that spins to clean out the filter. What do you guys do to clean out the filter from wynn?

thanks for all the info.

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