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Forum topic by Bradb7888 posted 05-28-2017 06:06 AM 457 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Bradb7888

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05-28-2017 06:06 AM

Topic tags/keywords: table top walnut finish kreg flat wood

I’ve been working on a walnut coffee table for a while now. My original plan was to attach a lifting mechanism but the one I bought (and all I can find online) doesn’t lift high enough. Also, I plan on making a new table with a thicker top, so I want to sell this one I made after attaching the top. The apron is painted and ready to go, but I have concerns on attaching the top. I have a kreg kit and figured I could use it, but I’m worried it will not allow movement. I read some other forums and from what I have read, you need to drill out a larger hole to allow movement when attaching.
Does this mean I need to drill out pocket holes using the kreg kit and then widen the holes in my apron while leaving the table top holes the same size? I assume this will let the screw bite down in the table top while allowing the screw to move on the apron holes to compensate for expansion/contraction.. am I on the right track?
I don’t I’ve a router or biscuit jointer to do any other methods I read about..


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#1 posted 05-28-2017 08:00 AM

https://woodworker.com/desktop-fasteners-mssu-866-826.asp?gclid=CP2d5KuPktQCFQgMaQodIPwBuw

I think widening pocket holes is a poor
choice and will take a lot of time to get
it right.

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pauljuilleret

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#2 posted 05-28-2017 10:09 AM

I use the mounting clips to mount my tops from Lee Valley. if you have a biscuit cutter use that to cut the slots in your apron. the top winds up being solid mounted but still allows for movement. hope this helps.

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bondogaposis

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#3 posted 05-28-2017 02:24 PM

Forget pocket screws, that is not going to work well. Either figure 8 clips or Z clips work well. Like these. Shop made buttons also work well, but if you have already made the apron, it is too late for that.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#4 posted 05-28-2017 03:09 PM


I’ve been working on a walnut coffee table for a while now. ... The apron is painted and ready to go,
- Bradb7888

Paint and walnut is not a good combination

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#5 posted 05-28-2017 03:32 PM

This works for us, a couple of dominos in an eloganted mortice.

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#6 posted 05-28-2017 03:49 PM

Bradb7888,

I am surprised that you do not have a router. This is such a versatile tool that it may be worthwhile to budget and then buy, especially if you are going to continue building furniture. But since you do not have a router then perhaps the corner block method may work.

A set of four corner blocks could be installed; one at each corner of the apron. Each corner block could feature an elongated hole that forms a slot. An oversized hole could also be drilled in the corner blocks instead of elongated holes, as long as the oversized hole is large enough. My preference is the elongated hole (slot) which can easily be done with a handheld drill. The elongated hole can allow for greater wood movement in the top than an oversized hole.

The corner blocks could be installed using pocket screws and maybe some glue (although I am not sure how much the hold the glue will offer, but glue will not hurt). The top could be attached to the table base by screwing through the elongated hole or oversized hole up into the top. The elongated hole should be orientated so that the slot is perpendicular to the wood grain of the top. If the corner blocks are installed about 1/16” or so below the top edge of the apron, the top will be pulled down onto the apron and eliminate a gap between the top and the apron that could otherwise result.

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#7 posted 05-28-2017 04:46 PM

Actually walnut paint just fine and so does cherry.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#8 posted 05-28-2017 05:59 PM

So you take $10 bf walnut and paint it to look like $2 poplar?

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#9 posted 05-28-2017 06:12 PM


So you take $10 bf walnut and paint it to look like $2 poplar?

- Carloz

If you note I said it paints well. I didn’t say Ive done it. I have painted a whole kitchen worth of cherry cabinet door frames white. Being tight grain it paints well. It’s a good way to use up cherry with defects and sap wood. I don’t use cherry sap wood.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#10 posted 05-28-2017 06:32 PM

Anyone who paints walnut should be banned from any store that sells paint.and have his brushes, sprayers and other paint supplies confiscated.

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Bradb7888

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#11 posted 05-28-2017 06:39 PM

Calm down people, the top is walnut and finished with tung oil and poly. The bottom is poplar and is painted white. Well, I actually used a walnut sapwood that was basically white in color on one of the sides and it’s holding the paint just fine. And to add, the walnut was $3 a board foot so you’re getting ripped off shopping at the big box store if your walnut is $10/bf.
But to those who actually gave an answer rather than unwanted criticism, I chose to go with the figure 8’s, found a pack of 20 on amazon prime. Thanks for your help.

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bondogaposis

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#12 posted 05-28-2017 06:48 PM

Actually walnut paint just fine and so does cherry.

I’m sure you are quite correct, but the question is, why?

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#13 posted 05-28-2017 06:58 PM

Finish is up to whom ever creates the piece.

I use the figure 8’s in all tables when allowed….

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#14 posted 05-28-2017 07:12 PM


Anyone who paints walnut should be banned from any store that sells paint.and have his brushes, sprayers and other paint supplies confiscated.

- Carloz

Now you sound like politician that knows what best for others.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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