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Forum topic by Jimintomahawak posted 05-27-2017 04:14 AM 2852 views 0 times favorited 42 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Jimintomahawak

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05-27-2017 04:14 AM

Topic tags/keywords: miter saw

When you look at everything out there….... DeWalt, Makita, Bosch, Milwaukee Hitachi they all seem to have a lot of negative reviews in newest reviews. I can’t say I would trust reviews more than 2 years old. A guy can’t tell what was changed from the to now.
When I looked at them in stores I can see why. Many are hard to adjust to true them up. Some can’t be adjusted. 90 degree detention has 1-2 degrees of slop in it. Tables that are low in the center, crooked fences ,...the list goes on..

I just want to be able to cut square on longer stock that’s hard to handle on the TS. I am making fireplace mantle and will be cutting a lot of crown molding she on and need something decent… not $1475 worth of decent though.

I use a harbor freight I got as a gift ( POS) . He should have paid me for storage LOL. Blade isn’t parallel to slide rails. It is finding a new home.

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Loren

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#1 posted 05-27-2017 04:28 AM

The DW705 is a good saw. I used one for
several years. I never found it to have
problems cutting square.

I can’t speak for newer models or lemons
but considering the pressures of competition
in the marketplace, the idea that everything
is junk unless it’s a Festool or whatever
doesn’t seem credible to me.

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#2 posted 05-27-2017 10:26 AM

I’m not buying it either. My 11 year old 12” Ridgid saw is far from perfection, but it absolutely cuts square. Everything can be adjusted.

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#3 posted 05-27-2017 11:50 AM

Most miter saws have potential for square cuts, but need tweaking, good blades, and good technique for best results. If the saw covers the basics, the rest is setup and user.

Possibly even more critical than the saw, having flat straight lumber always helps too….it’s much harder to get a square cut from a twisted 2×4.

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#4 posted 05-27-2017 11:51 AM

I use Dewalt. I don’t have any problems with square and mitres, but I check settings regularly to make sure there’s no wandering.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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#5 posted 05-27-2017 12:26 PM

https://hoffmann-usa.com/machinery/omga-production-miter-saws

The only ones I know that are right, all the time

All the rest will take some work.

-- nice recovery, They should pay extra for that mistake, Eric E.

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#6 posted 05-27-2017 01:03 PM

I have a Hatatchi 12” and it cuts square, the detents have no slop. You set and go. I have it on a fold up stand to move it around, it sits in a corner when not being used and has been bumped when moving. I haven’t had to make any adjusrments to it.

-- mrg

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#7 posted 05-27-2017 01:42 PM

Sounds like you were looking for the negative reviews to find issues and after doing so went to the store and were trying to pick out every potential flaw. Don’t be so critical of the item out of the box, remember, it’s wood that we’re manually cutting with a saw blade, not milling stainless on a 5 axis cnc.

I have a cheap hitachi 10” that has worked like a champ for years. If you’re looking for dead-nuts precision, it’s going to take a little initial set up and tweaking on your part.

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#8 posted 05-27-2017 02:02 PM

This Omga is mighty tempting and cost effective as well, $1288.00 plus…....

https://hoffmann-usa.com/machinery/omga-production-miter-saws/compound-saw

Thanks Eric Twice!

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#9 posted 05-27-2017 02:57 PM

I’ll bet even that cheap HF saw can be adjusted.

That being said, attempting to appeal to mass market, many name brands are building cheaper and cheaper tools. I personally think there are different lines, too – the Milwaukee, DW etc you see in Home Depot are not the same tools you get at a professional level tool shop.

For anyone interested Jeremy Schmidt has a good video on modifying a DeWalt to take slop out of bushings. I was considering buying one of the DW sliders but after he showed how much slop there was I’m reconsidering it.

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#10 posted 05-27-2017 04:37 PM

Yes, true, home Depot sells a different model than you’d get from a pro store. Don’t be fooled. I used to be a fan of the Makita LS 1030 until they quit making them. I use a DeWalt now and as much as I try to find fault with it, I can not.

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#11 posted 05-27-2017 04:47 PM

WELL Yeah, at that price they should send someone to make the cuts for you


https://hoffmann-usa.com/machinery/omga-production-miter-saws

The only ones I know that are right, all the time

All the rest will take some work.

- EricTwice


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#12 posted 05-27-2017 05:16 PM

Don’t forget, if you want a square cut the stock has to be straight.

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#13 posted 05-27-2017 05:30 PM

Square is a relative term in some cases ;) Most any MS will cut square enough for framing. Then the next level cuts square for finish trim work. I don’t know of one that always cuts square enough for furniture and small projects. Sure you’ll get close, but for some people and some projects, that’s not good enough. For me, this was learned the hard way – being disappointed in some results.

Now I only use a MS for breaking down stock and getting “close enough” to where I then use other means to achieve better accuracy. In hindsight I wouldn’t spent the dollars I did on the Bosch that replace my Ridgid. Well the only advantage it has for me at this point is it gets closer to the wall than the Ridgid, saving shop space. Heck if I didn’t have all the storage I do in my miter station, I’d probably have the MS sitting in a corner and take it out as needed, using that space for other equipment. Hmmm? Maybe I’ll do this :)

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Jimintomahawak

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#14 posted 05-27-2017 05:53 PM



Square is a relative term in some cases ;) Most any MS will cut square enough for framing. Then the next level cuts square for finish trim work. I don t know of one that always cuts square enough for furniture and small projects. Sure you ll get close, but for some people and some projects, that s not good enough. For me, this was learned the hard way – being disappointed in some results.

Now I only use a MS for breaking down stock and getting “close enough” to where I then use other means to achieve better accuracy. In hindsight I wouldn t spent the dollars I did on the Bosch that replace my Ridgid. Well the only advantage it has for me at this point is it gets closer to the wall than the Ridgid, saving shop space. Heck if I didn t have all the storage I do in my miter station, I d probably have the MS sitting in a corner and take it out as needed, using that space for other equipment. Hmmm? Maybe I ll do this :)

- builtinbkyn


Thanks for your point of view. Trying to get my cuts square on some 60” parts has been a headache for me. I’ve resorted to a sled on table saw that does the trick. I will will finishing a new home in next couple months and need something I can haul around until we get further along. I have a deal scoped out on a 10” Bosch for 410 that I may jump on. I have a miter table designed for new house to double as an indeed/outfeed support for the TS too. When it comes time to trim out the fireplace I will need the MS near me.

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#15 posted 05-27-2017 05:59 PM

A lot of good saws out there. About any brand name can be adjusted square.


Square is a relative term in some cases ;) Most any MS will cut square enough for framing. Then the next level cuts square for finish trim work. I don t know of one that always cuts square enough for furniture and small projects. Sure you ll get close, but for some people and some projects, that s not good enough. For me, this was learned the hard way – being disappointed in some results.

Now I only use a MS for breaking down stock and getting “close enough” to where I then use other means to achieve better accuracy. In hindsight I wouldn t spent the dollars I did on the Bosch that replace my Ridgid. Well the only advantage it has for me at this point is it gets closer to the wall than the Ridgid, saving shop space. Heck if I didn t have all the storage I do in my miter station, I d probably have the MS sitting in a corner and take it out as needed, using that space for other equipment. Hmmm? Maybe I ll do this :)

- builtinbkyn

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