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Forum topic by JRsgarage posted 05-26-2017 02:00 PM 488 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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JRsgarage

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05-26-2017 02:00 PM

any pros or cons…any info will be appreciated

considering it for 1 1/2 hp shaper

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#1 posted 05-26-2017 08:14 PM

your machine will be a little underpowered for that cutters capabilities.

appears to be a 1 1/4 bore ? Is that correct ?

It can be bushed if needed

If your using an approx 4 inch od cutter, which that one appears to be your not gonna have much table left on a small shaper,,,,,,,,there are ways around that too.

Insert cutters are pricey, what is your reasoning for wanting one ?

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#2 posted 05-26-2017 08:57 PM

sorry about the stock pic. the one i’m looking at is 3/4” bore with 3 1/8 dia. to be used in a delta 43-355 shaper.

only reason considering is the flexibility of multi profiles…thinking best bang for buck. it’ll be for kitchen remodel and additional mouldings for upstairs. thanks

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JBrow

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#3 posted 05-26-2017 09:37 PM

JRsgarage,

Like cabmaker, I am not sure which cutter set you are considering. I found two on Amazon, one with 1-1/4” bore and a similar second set with a ¾” bore. Both are from aluminum which would be relatively light weight and spin easier than a cutter head made of steel. Since my experience with aluminum suggests it is softer than steel, some care would be required when installing the insert cutter so as to avoid stripping the insert cutter mounting screws.

There may be a bit more vibration with the lighter weight aluminum cutter head (compared to a steel cutter head) that could require more sanding of the profile to remove any ripples. Since two insert cutters mount to the cutter head, the finished profile may not as smooth as if the cutter head accepted 3 insert cutters. I am not sure how this cut would differ from that of a two flute router bit. The cutter head will spin slower than a router but the diameter of the cutter would increase the speed that of the cutters, so the cut may end up comparable to that produced with a router.

Both sets offer steel rather than carbide insert cutters. These would dull sooner than carbide but unlike carbide, a replacement cutter set is affordable.

I suspect that there are several cutter sets that may never be used, although you probably already realize this.

On Amazon…

¾” Bore set
https://www.amazon.com/CMT-692-013-09-Cabinet-Joinery-Diameter/dp/B000P4JL1U/ref=pd_day0_469_3/144-8271324-3237325?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000P4JL1U&pd_rd_r=MXPK4R7PNNAKZ60ZZ7RJ&pd_rd_w=JybWe&pd_rd_wg=OErWs&psc=1&refRID=MXPK4R7PNNAKZ60ZZ7RJ

I did look at the four reviews on Amazon for the 1-1/4” bore set. Two customers were disappointed evidently because they did not receive the product as it was pictured on Amazon. One person returned the set but from I gather paid 2/3 of the return shipping cost. 1-1/4” bore set…
https://www.amazon.com/CMT-692-013-14-Molding-Profile-Diameter/dp/B000P4JL3S

Insert cutters…
https://www.amazon.com/CMT-690-011-Profiled-Cutters-Thickness/dp/B000P4LLUO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495832068&sr=8-1&keywords=cmt+shaper+cutter

I considered a cutter head with inserts for my shaper but ended up buying individual carbide shaper cutters. I bought a raised panel door sets, a pair of round over and cove cutters and some roller guides. I use these frequently and rarely any other profile. I also bought some straight cutters for rabbeting but have yet to use them. These totaled about triple the cost than the set you are considering. If I want to rout a profile for which I need a new cutter, it will likely cost in the $100 or more range. For me Grizzly shaper cutters, less expensive than others, would be the first place I would look should I need a new profile that I expect to use infrequently.

Of course both the cutter head and inserts set and some solid bodied cutters could be the strategy. If, for a kitchen remodel requiring rail and stile and panel raising profiles, solid bodied three flute carbide cutters would hold their edge longer and may yield better results. The cutter head could be used for every thing else.

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JRsgarage

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#4 posted 05-26-2017 10:58 PM

JBrow,
thanks for the informative reply. i am little concerned there will be more useless profiles but figured i could make them work. big concern, quality of cuts… the unit itself looks pretty well made.

only solid body cutter i was considering for the projects was a raised panel cutter…maybe a freud or freeborn, and just buy the individual insert cutters for anything else.

thanks again

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000P4NP94/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1WO0LWTFI0BL8

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#5 posted 05-27-2017 02:17 AM

JRsgarage,

I have the Freeborn cove cutters and I am very happy with them. I have no cutters from Freud but I suspect they are of high quality. The door set I mentioned is from Infinity. I am very happy with the cutters in the set, including the panel raising cutter and Infinity claims to use micro-carbide in the manufacture of their cutters. Their panel raising cutters are $120 with free shipping; for comparison. All these mentioned cutters are ¾” bore.

Here is Infinity website…
https://www.infinitytools.com/shaper-cutters-accessories/carbide-shaper-cutters/door-making-shaper-cutters/raised-panel-door-shaper-cutters-3279

I have also seen where MLCS offers ¾” bore shaper cutters including raised panel cutters and door sets, although I have none. I find their router bits are reasonably good router bits and have met my needs.

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#6 posted 05-29-2017 12:17 PM

Jbrow,
thanks for reminding me of Infinity! for some reason i put them out of site, out of mind…
thanks

i went and purchased the cmt set locally(40%off that price) and debating on which style raised panel/joinery set to buy. i’ve been thinking maybe stay away from harder edge profiles…little worried screwing them up

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