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11-22-2010 09:03 PM

An interesting new study released today:

http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-11/wi-fi-radiation-killing-trees

More studies are being planned to figure out the precise effects of radiation on plant life

-- - Eric Indianapolis, IN


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#1 posted 11-22-2010 09:14 PM

I think it affects humans as well with the craziness I’ve witnessed in people.
Radiation overdose could be classified with Acid rain on effects of plant life I guess.

-- I don't make mistakes, I have great learning lessons, Greg

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#2 posted 11-22-2010 09:15 PM

yeah i’ve noticed that wifi radiation tends to make humans’ thumbs stick to their palms.

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#3 posted 11-22-2010 09:24 PM

yeah i’ve noticed that wifi radiation tends to make humans’ thumbs stick to their palms.
NAH that’s just an old Scottish trick to save you paying for a round of drinks at the bar when your turn comes round LOL Alistair

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#4 posted 11-22-2010 09:26 PM

i think i might have that problem too!

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#5 posted 11-22-2010 10:06 PM

I see right off a number of flaws in the study –
They point out that “Urban Forests” are dying compared to the trees in the countryside…and have decided that it MUST be WiFi??? Because it “Couldn’t be tied to bacterial or viral causes”

Couldn’t it more likely be the aerial spraying of the cities to control insects especially mosquitoes, for west nile virus.
The fact that in the cities, all of the underbrush is generally removed
People are picnicing around the urban trees for shade, but pouring out their drinks nearby, which attract ants to the sugars.
Smog
pesticides
run-off from the streets

and on and on and on…. My background is chemistry not electricity, but for an Urban vs. Rural tree damage, I can see a number of more serious differences in the two environments. Electrical transmission has a much larger EMF than Wi-Fi does, but powerlines don’t weem to be killing trees off

but these guys are convinced that it is Wifi. I see this as another example of our government studies at work. Like the recent revelation that Democrat and Republican audiences have a different top 10 list of TV shows…..oooh Ahhhh Shocking! ;-)

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison

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#6 posted 11-22-2010 10:11 PM

Dave, this is just one particular study that specifically focused on wi-fi radiation.

Ignore the statistical percentages mentioned about rural vs urban and focus on the study itself that is explained. “To test the hypothesis that the mystery illness was caused by radiation poisoning, the researchers took 20 ash trees and exposed them to various kinds of radiation for three months. Sure enough, the ash trees exposed to Wi-Fi signals showed telltale signs of radiation sickness, including a “lead-like shine” on their leaves, indicating the oncoming death of those leaves.” It isn’t saying that other factors are also contributing, this study is specific to wi-fi. I’m sure if they did a study focused on run-off water and pesticides they could find other sorts of poisoning to trees and plant life(I believe these studies have been done already).

The study wasn’t specific to urban either. Just trees in general. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http://www.antennebureau.nl/actueel/nieuws/2010/eerste-indruk-kennisplatform-onderzoek-naar-bomen-en-wifi-zendsignalen The real details though aren’t apparent yet. “He warns strongly that there are no far-reaching conclusions from its results” Its just an interesting study and the first of its kind.

-- - Eric Indianapolis, IN

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#7 posted 11-22-2010 10:20 PM

Fascinating.

It surely needs to be replicated, and then species-checked to find out whether some are far more susceptible than others, and whether some don’t mind.

And then I wouldn’t really mind knowing if these effects DO translate into deleterious effects for all, or other, carbon-based organisms.

In the meantime, though, I have noticed the beginnings of what surely looks like a third arm, growing, in the middle of my chest.

It’s going to be a HUGE asset, in soldering, so … I’m not really bothered by it….. ;-)

-- -- Neil

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#8 posted 11-22-2010 10:32 PM

Another study suggest that trees are blocking out Wi-Fi Transmissions.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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#9 posted 11-22-2010 10:35 PM

How does one expose 20 ash trees only to wifi and exclude all other signals and contaminants? Wifi signals are so low powered compared to cell phones and other transmitters that something just doesn’t sit right about this study. That would be one heck of a greenhouse.

My take on this is that it is a small study that was weak but showed positive results in an effort to secure more funding for a real study, which will have inconclusive results.

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#10 posted 11-22-2010 11:03 PM

I think it’s aliens causing this!

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#11 posted 11-22-2010 11:24 PM

Swirt, they put the plants in a controlled room. These weren’t tested in the city or rural areas but in a controlled isolated room to remove and other variables that would affect the study.

“My take on this is that it is a small study that was weak but showed positive results in an effort to secure more funding for a real study, which will have inconclusive results.”
Exactly, this is the first study of its kind and shows there is some validity to their theories and hopefully can get more funding.

Neil, are you sure its a third arm growing in the middle of your chest and not a Chestburster from Aliens lol?

-- - Eric Indianapolis, IN

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#12 posted 11-22-2010 11:36 PM

If you look hard enough at just about anything it causes damage to something. Hell cows are one of the worst contributors to global warming supposedly. Somehow this planet has suvived for millions of years and now in the 6 plus thousnds years we have destroyed it. I am all for finding ways to make things as safe as possible for this planet but there is a lot of frivaless crap people study so they can pay off their enormous student loans. Anyways, we all do a lot of damage to the forests by needing wood for our projects and houses and frivaless furniture we could probably do without. Sorry for all the misspelled words and my little rant. I wasn’t in the infantry for my intelagence or my ability to spell.

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#13 posted 11-23-2010 01:53 AM

My skepticism follows swirts point.
I have wifi in the house and struggle to get a signal in different rooms. WiFi generally doesn’t travel that far…unlike cellphone transmissions and powerlines.

Ever try to get a wi fi signal on your laptop…even in the city park..never mind the urban forests?

I’d love to know what kind of dosage was in their small study. “We put the 1.21 Gigawatt flux capacitor at a distance of 3 centimeters 24/7 for 3 months and saw evidence that it wasn’t healthy” now we need a grant to do a real study to generate more of the inconclusive results they deride at the beginning of their story!

I am all for researching safety…but if high power transmitters on poles to give you 10 mile radius 4 bar coverage = “no problems” now we move to low power. To me I wonder if someone just couldn’t get the funding for ‘another round’ on cell phone safety, so now they move on to a new source for WiFi.

Ya need to spend some time seeing how this grant and funding process works. I did my PhD research for 5 years at Penn State, and worked for a brand new assistant professor get established and gain funding and tenure. then 2 years as a Research Fellow for semiconductor materials at Arizona State University where I worked with their MRSEC (Materials Research Science and Engineering Center) which was a pooling of resources to gain mega government bucks as a consortium rather than funding individual professors.

EVERY anomolous finding represents the next cure for cancer, global warming and Erectile dysfunction all in one time release capsule if only we could get enough funding…
And if I just paste it in… It absolutely is an URBAN issue. They specifically state that rural trees are UNAFFECTED…and what does their comment (urban areas, especially) mean if not that they focused on urban areas?
The study, conducted by Wageningen University, investigated findings that trees in areas with high Wi-Fi activity (urban areas, especially) were suffering from symptoms that couldn’t be tied to typical bacterial or viral causes. The symptoms included bleeding (!), fissures in the bark, the death of parts of leaves, and abnormal growth.
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Of course, trees in rural or even simply non-urban environments are pretty much unaffected, but theoretically, all deciduous trees in the Western world could be affected.

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#14 posted 11-23-2010 02:18 AM

“hey put the plants in a controlled room.” 20 plants in a truly controlled room is beyond the capabilities of most universities. Let alone another 20 in a separate controlled room for a control and 20 more in a controlled room with cell phone radiation plus another 20 for normal electric radiation ….

-- Galootish log blog, http://www.timberframe-tools.com

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#15 posted 11-23-2010 02:24 AM

My Baloney Detector is pegging.

There is not enough radiation from Wi-Fi to affect any living item leaning on it.

Get a grip: all this fear journalism is simply the uninformed screaming unintelligible hogwash.

I haven’t decided which is worse: the local news story about the next program on the network, or about some fear item.

Fear the Dumb!

-- chas -- looking for Serta sponsorship to go Pro...

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