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05-23-2017 01:19 AM

I have 425 bf of Cypresss on the way that I’m building planting boxes out of. I’ve never work with this wood before nore have I ever built anything that needs to stand up to rain, snow, sunshine and moist soil. Looking for recommendations on joinery, finish (dark) and any advice at all that will make these things sturdy and durable?
Please help!

Dave


-- "what a ya mean I don't believe in god, I talk to him every day.” Dave Mustiane.


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#1 posted 05-23-2017 01:43 AM

I don’t remember never using Cypress. We’ve built just about anything that comes to mind with it. Furniture, indoor and outdoor kitchens, outdoor furniture, planter boxes, etc. It’s what I use 99% of the time to hand carve and router-cut indoor and outdoors signs with.

It machines good, paint and stains good. If you’re going to use it outside use and exterior stain. You might want to put a sealer on it to keep the stain from fading faster than normal.

Our homes are built out of Cypress including the exposed beams, wall studs, floor joist, tongue and v groove wood ceilings and decks and outsides.Never been an exterminator in our homes.

My daughters are doing the inside of a new library in the millwork shop now out of clear and better Cypress, about 3000 brd feet. It’s a staple in our warehouse.

Here is a kitchen countertop I built several years ago out of 8/4 Cypress.
http://lumberjocks.com/projects/63970

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#2 posted 05-23-2017 02:31 AM

Use it all the time.

Do whatever you want and it’ll hold up really well outdoors. Put a finish on if you don’t want it to go gray.

Edit: glues well. Screws well. Really soft though.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#3 posted 05-23-2017 01:21 PM

I’m thinking of using cypress to build exterior shutters which will be painted. However, the 2 big hardwood dealers in my area (Philadelphia) don’t carry cypress. I’d use cedar, but I don’t think it takes paint well. Is that correct? And am I right about using cypress for the shutters (if I can find it)?

-- Mike from Lansdowne, PA

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#4 posted 05-23-2017 01:28 PM

Interesting fact about Clear Cypress. During WWII the Navy used it for making gas tank housings for their carrier plaines that had self sealing gas tank bladders. I don’t know why but they did. Cypress is good stuff.

-- Illigitimii non carburundum sum

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#5 posted 05-23-2017 01:30 PM

I used cypress on my shutters Mike. Primed and painted both side, tripped on my air hose, and ended up with a knee replacement. However, the shutters have held up well. Much better than me. :)
Bill

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#6 posted 05-23-2017 02:07 PM

A word of caution: If your lumber is coming from down here in the south, be aware most of the cypress you get from a sawmill is what we call “pond cypress” (basically second growth trees 60-80 yrs old). You cannot use it for exposed decking, chairs, or any horizontal application because it will rot and also attack by termites. I remember asking the sawyer about using it for decking his reply was “you don’t want to do that”.

Heart cypress, which is usually harvested from river bottoms and very expensive and lasts forever.

If you are not using heart cypress, I strongly suggest some type of permanent sealer or liner on the inside or else the planters might only last a few years.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#7 posted 05-23-2017 04:17 PM



A word of caution: If your lumber is coming from down here in the south, be aware most of the cypress you get from a sawmill is what we call “pond cypress” (basically second growth trees 60-80 yrs old). You cannot use it for exposed decking, chairs, or any horizontal application because it will rot and also attack by termites. I remember asking the sawyer about using it for decking his reply was “you don t want to do that”.

Heart cypress, which is usually harvested from river bottoms and very expensive and lasts forever.

If you are not using heart cypress, I strongly suggest some type of permanent sealer or liner on the inside or else the planters might only last a few years.

- rwe2156

Use KD Cypress, not air dried and there will be no problem with it rotting on bugs getting in it.

-- Bruce Free Plans http://plans.sawmillvalley.org

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#8 posted 05-23-2017 06:30 PM

Correction it was Heart cypress that they used. They called it “Tank” cypress.

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#9 posted 05-23-2017 07:05 PM

I think rwe is referring to sinker cypress. Expensive. Would only use it for special projects.

I’ve seen a lot of regular or second growth cypress here (south Louisiana) without any rot or bug problems. Almost all Porch swings and outdoor furniture around here that I’ve seen is built with regular old cypress. I guess result may vary.

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#10 posted 05-23-2017 08:59 PM

This stuff is swamp cypress #2 common.

-- "what a ya mean I don't believe in god, I talk to him every day.” Dave Mustiane.

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#11 posted 05-23-2017 09:38 PM


I think rwe is referring to sinker cypress. Expensive. Would only use it for special projects.

I ve seen a lot of regular or second growth cypress here (south Louisiana) without any rot or bug problems. Almost all Porch swings and outdoor furniture around here that I ve seen is built with regular old cypress. I guess result may vary.

- TheFridge

We just unloaded 2500 brd feet of KD clear and better Cypress today that came from Louisiana. Beautiful lumber.
4/4. 5/4 and 8/4.

-- Bruce Free Plans http://plans.sawmillvalley.org

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#12 posted 05-24-2017 12:08 AM

I love it. my paw paw used to mill cypress to build his barns and sheds. Good old growth stuff. Haven’t run out yet.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#13 posted 05-24-2017 12:55 PM

Lets keep in mind he’s building planting boxes.

I would design it around a plastic planter insert or use some type of liner with maybe a wire mesh bottom.

Cypress furniture is great for porches, but outdoor it doesn’t always hold up too well. I’ve seen many outdoor cypress swing sets and deck chairs severely deteriorated and termite-eaten after several years and I’ve seen others 20+ years old doing ok. I think it depends on where the wood comes from, like the butt end vs. the top.

I think maybe the issue is its basically all sapwood.

Cedar might be a better choice for this.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#14 posted 05-24-2017 01:26 PM

Thank you rwe2156, you get my concerns. I would have preferred to use cedar or redwood but the cypress is due for delivery in a couple of hours now. I’ve gotta do what I can with what I’ve got.
I am designing the interior around plastic lining because I don’t want to contaminate the soil.

Dave

-- "what a ya mean I don't believe in god, I talk to him every day.” Dave Mustiane.

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#15 posted 05-24-2017 01:48 PM

My client is actually my lawyer’s wife, so I figure the better I please her the better job he will do for me.

-- "what a ya mean I don't believe in god, I talk to him every day.” Dave Mustiane.

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