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Forum topic by richardchaos posted 05-20-2017 11:56 PM 1600 views 0 times favorited 31 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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richardchaos

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05-20-2017 11:56 PM

I have read more and more posts about the semi-crap from Grizzly Tools. A friend of mine who had to moving into and apartment… Ask me to store some of his tools at my place and in exchange to could use them.

One was the Grizzly G0458 – 18” 1-1/2 HP Single-Phase Open End Drum Sander..

At first it looked like a diamond in the sky and plus with it being open needed one could flip over your stock and double your sanding area IN THEROY!

1) There is what Grizzly called a TENSION bar on the under side of the loading/feeding belt. Which in my opinion it just a wide sanding belt. Under it you can move the bar up and down to increase the tension of the feed belt. Its is a solid steel bar maybe 1/8 inch. Bare metal THIS BAR DOES NOT USE any sort or BEARING!!!!!And the feed belt rides on it.

But the weird thing is the LID you lift up to change the sanding belt has a BEARING IN IT! GO FIGURE!!

2) The Feed speed up or down is simply a V belt that rides on 2 pulleys. And it goes faster or slower by the TENSION you set it to. So on slow speeds it real loose and simple,y slips more for slow speeds.

3) WAY underpowered!!!!

4) The FEED belt is a night,are to get just right so it does not travel off to the right or the left. There seems to be NOT correct centering potion. I have grown accustom to waiting for it to go to one side or the other. reset the bolts until it travels to far to the either side then reset again.

5) Wrapping some more Sanding paper onto the drum is a exercise in futility. IF you do NOT trim it exactly the right length you have turned a $50 roll of paper into sandpaper for your orbital sander! I just use a medium grit and live with t as I cant stand to load up anymore for an hour!

I do have a lower end Grizzly Bandsaw and its okay once you tickle it int adjustment. But it still wants to travel all over!

Its just seems to me lie Grizzly engineers a bunch of retired virus Chimps with pencils

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell


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mudflap4869

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#1 posted 05-21-2017 02:39 AM

Don’t like Grizzly? Don’t use Grizzly! Problem solved.

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AlaskaGuy

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#2 posted 05-21-2017 02:44 AM

I would image Grizzly engineers have to design to a price point. If you come to me and want 3 drawer kitchen cabinet for 25 dollars you’re going to be disappointed.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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bigblockyeti

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#3 posted 05-21-2017 03:04 AM

I don’t know if this particular design is proprietary to Grizzly specifically or not, as many of the machines they sell are not. If not, it may be a case of seeing what the factory offers then picking and choosing where they want improvements made and which aspects they’re content with. My dad bought a Honda push mower from a Honda mower dealer quite some time ago and the exact same model was also available at HD for just under $100 less but with a few minor visible omissions. The plastic wheels spun directly on the axle bolts, vs. the dealer model with 2 ball bearings per wheel and the bag frame was shaped ever so slightly different. Any other differences (and I’m sure there were some) were buried out of sight. The point is, I suspect this was very engineered to a specific price point and the engineers at Grizzly are no doubt capable of designing something far more robust and user friendly, the question becomes whether or not they’re allowed? After tallying up the difference in materials and labor costs, I suspect the answer from the bean counters is a resounding NO!

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Desert_Woodworker

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#4 posted 05-21-2017 03:42 AM

WOW- To post this in a Grizzly friendly page- that takes “saw dust” Interesting…

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Rich

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#5 posted 05-21-2017 05:21 AM



WOW- To post this in a Grizzly friendly page- that takes “saw dust” Interesting…

- Desert_Woodworker

At least you were able to decipher the coded message. It made my head spin.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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SuperCubber

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#6 posted 05-21-2017 12:53 PM

RantingRich is back!

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Rob

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#7 posted 05-21-2017 01:01 PM

I’m wondering what prompts a person who has been a member here for all of 8 days, who has listed on his home page that he was fired in November of 2017 which hasn’t even occurred yet, to take it upon himself to review a machine that he doesn’t own and likely hasn’t used much. I didn’t read where the writer of this post/review is an expert in drum sanders or an engineer of woodworking machines or even has his own drum sander to compare the Grizzly model to and then form an opinion about.

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Carloz

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#8 posted 05-21-2017 01:20 PM

If you want to sound like an expert in machinery design you need to at least proofread your writing. As of now I have an imoression you misunderstood how the machine operates and whether it got bearings in places it needs them.

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a1Jim

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#9 posted 05-21-2017 01:39 PM

Welcome to Ljs
I’ve had very good luck with all of the Grizzly tools I own, sometimes when we don’t know how things work we blame the tool. All of the drum sanders I’ve owned you have to cut the sand paper to the correct size or it’s wasted so I’m not really sure that is an engineering problem. As far as your lower end Grizzly band saw goes it just could be that it’s lower end.Lower end tools do not have all the bells whistles so perhaps a little more investment might have made you a happy camper.

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#10 posted 05-21-2017 01:42 PM

Sounds to me like he broke his friends machine and wants to pass it off as being a piece of crap so it isn’t his fault.

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Rich

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#11 posted 05-21-2017 03:08 PM



RantingRich is back!

- SuperCubber

I never left.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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AlaskaGuy

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#12 posted 05-21-2017 03:13 PM


RantingRich is back!

- SuperCubber

I never left.

- RichTaylor


AH! That explains it.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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Bill White

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#13 posted 05-21-2017 06:57 PM

You’re gonna have to convince me that me Gizz tools are inferior.
You bring the booze, I’ll supply the measurements.
Bill

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Tony_S

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#14 posted 05-21-2017 08:33 PM



RantingRich is back!

- SuperCubber

Yep….pretty unmistakable.

-- It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Aristotle

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Bill White

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#15 posted 05-21-2017 09:24 PM

I have a hard time believing that a company whose exec./owner is visible and responds to comments and questions is not responsive to ANY issue(s) that might need tech help.
Grizz for me for sure.
The unhappy poster needs to get a gift card for some other tooling.
As we say in Mississippi, “Go butt a stump”.
Let me get back to my Grizz catalog.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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