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jonnybrophy

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05-20-2017 09:35 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw greene and greene question

Hey guys, Im in the market for a table saw and am trying to look for a cabinet style for less than or equal to 300. I don’t have 220,or three phase capabilities. I’ve found a powermatic 66, and some uni-saw’s and i just dont know what to do. Also, some people throw out some ridiculous prices. One dude said $1500 for an old pm 1000 he wasn’t using.

I have my heart set on this green PM66 thats about 2 hour drive away. its not been used recently, and the seller is selling A LOT of tools. Hopefully, i can play my cards right…(i have no info other than front pic)

Ugh, how do i haggle?
What do i haggle?
and if need be, how can i install 220 and how cheaply can it be done? ( I have space in my panel)

Thanks guys, I really appreciate it.

-- "If she dont find ya handsome, she better find ya handy"


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#1 posted 05-20-2017 09:53 PM

Haggling is a matter of practice and reading the person to bypass their defenses. If you smell desperation, cash waved under his nose will go a long way. An older guy who doesn’t need the money and has some sentimentalism is toughest because deep down they don’t want to sell and won’t unless you meet their price. I don’t bother with those guys. An arrogant seller will bristle at strongarm tactics, let them think they are taking advantage of you. If they are selling a dead relative’s tools, let them know it’s going to someone who will use it, that means a lot to people and might lead to other deals. One thing I avoid, don’t ever ask for the lowest price then counter it with an even lower offer, it’s rude and is a quick way to shut down negotiations. Don’t throw out offers sight unseen – lots of people do that and none of them ever show up. An old car buyer trick is touch every flaw and mention it, but don’t over due it, lots of people know that one.

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#2 posted 05-20-2017 09:55 PM

thanks, that great advice rick!

-- "If she dont find ya handsome, she better find ya handy"

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#3 posted 05-20-2017 11:16 PM

Everything Rick said above is great advice.

Read “The Art of the Deal.” Actually, having a mentor is the best thing because you can watch them work the deal.

One thing I’ve found works, is to just wear them down. If you’re the gregarious type, just hang in there, hem and haw and see if you can get them to simply want to get rid of you. Act like you’re trying to convince yourself that you even want the darned thing.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#4 posted 05-20-2017 11:18 PM

For $300 you’re very likely to get a saw that needs some TLC….maybe even a lot of TLC if you really had your heart set on a cabinet saw. You’re not likely to be able to haggle a nice $1000 saw that’s fairly priced down to $300, but you might stand a chance at getting a $400-$500 saw to $300. Just be honest, and tell them $300 is all you can offer, and leave your number if they don’t accept on the spot….sometimes people will take a low offer after an item doesn’t sell for a while. Be patient.

The PM1000 has only been around for a couple of years, and retails in the $2000 range, so it can’t be too old, and could be priced very reasonably at $1000.

Every electrical situation is different. I ran my 220v from an a dryer line that we no longer use.

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#5 posted 05-20-2017 11:25 PM

Well, with a 2 hour drive and a lot of tools
maybe there are some other items on sale
that would be worth the drive even if you
leave empty-handed in terms of the table
saw.

I seldom haggle personally when buying
machinery. I don’t like making a drive to
walk away empty-handed. I get an agreement
on a price from the seller over the phone
first and if the machine is in acceptable
condition I buy it. I don’t hem and haw
over minor details like surface rust, worn
power cords and stuff like that. I do however
try to get whatever blades and accessories
are available thrown in.

Sometimes I’ve made a deal to buy additional
items. Making a package deal of it is an effective way to
get the machine you want and some additional
items. Sometimes I’ve bought several tools
to get just one or two things I really wanted
and sold the rest off locally or on ebay.

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#6 posted 05-20-2017 11:41 PM

If you have cable TV, try to check out the show ‘American Pickers’ ... Mike and Frank do a great job of haggling and bundling to get what they want at a price they want to pay.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#7 posted 05-20-2017 11:49 PM

799.00 Dade County:
https://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/tls/6128774720.html

550.00 Jacksonville
https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/tls/6098415462.html

1100.00 Tampa
https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/tls/6065243149.html

Not sure what part of Florida you’re at but the cabinet saws do command a high price tag. Maybe a contractors’
saw might be a better fit.

Or, if you can make monthly payments get a new Grizzly.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/10-Hybrid-Table-Saw-with-T-Shaped-Fence/G0771Z

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#8 posted 05-20-2017 11:53 PM



If you have cable TV, try to check out the show American Pickers ... Mike and Frank do a great job of haggling and bundling to get what they want at a price they want to pay.

- TheDane

And if you want to see how NOT to do it, watch 98% of the people who get on the Pawn Stars show. It cracks me up to watch some of them.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#9 posted 05-20-2017 11:57 PM

I don’t mind giving TLC. Actually, I WANT to get a saw that needs some tlc. My ideal saw is an old powermatic or delta unisaw, that needs a restore. I want a workhorse, but is also as accurate as ever. Something ill use for the a long time.

Thanks for the support!

P.S.- Check out letgo and offerup if you ever want to look for stuff, they’re great!

-- "If she dont find ya handsome, she better find ya handy"

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#10 posted 05-21-2017 12:14 AM

How do you feel haggling down the price to $300 which fare price is $800? Do you enjoy taking advantage of someone desperate situation ?


Haggling is a matter of practice and reading the person to bypass their defenses. If you smell desperation, cash waved under his nose will go a long way. An older guy who doesn t need the money and has some sentimentalism is toughest because deep down they don t want to sell and won t unless you meet their price. I don t bother with those guys. An arrogant seller will bristle at strongarm tactics, let them think they are taking advantage of you. If they are selling a dead relative s tools, let them know it s going to someone who will use it, that means a lot to people and might lead to other deals. One thing I avoid, don t ever ask for the lowest price then counter it with an even lower offer, it s rude and is a quick way to shut down negotiations. Don t throw out offers sight unseen – lots of people do that and none of them ever show up. An old car buyer trick is touch every flaw and mention it, but don t over due it, lots of people know that one.

- Rick M


How do you feel haggling down the price to $300 which fare price is $800? Do you enjoy taking advantage of someone’s desperate situation ?

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#11 posted 05-21-2017 12:14 AM

I rarely haggle. I’ll offer what I feel it is worth to me, and if they decline, I’ll wait for the next one to show up. It’s not a big deal as long as you don’t get into that “gotta have it now” mind set. You will find the best deals when you really aren’t looking for them. They just show up… and then the key is to just be the first in line.

Cheers,
Brad

PS: The PM1000 is a fairly new machine, introduced around 2013 IIRC. If it’s been used very little and in original condition, then $1500 is not a totally unrealistic price… and it most likely will include additional stuff that wouldn’t come with the saw initially (mobile base, sleds, throat plates, etc…). If you were looking at buying a new one, that one would be a reasonable alternative IMO.

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#12 posted 05-21-2017 12:30 AM


How do you feel haggling down the price to $300 which fare price is $800? Do you enjoy taking advantage of someone’s desperate situation ?

It’s not a charity you donate money to. If someone is willing to sell it for that price, it’s fine with me. Whether they are stupid or desperate, it’s not my concern. Would you really pay someone $500 more than they’re willing to sell it for, just to be fair?

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#13 posted 05-21-2017 12:35 AM



and if need be, how can i install 220 and how cheaply can it be done? ( I have space in my panel)

Thanks guys, I really appreciate it.

- jonnybrophy

First of all it’s 240VAC, second, if you don’t know how to do it and you’re approaching the project with having it done “cheaply” you stand an excellent chance of having your adjuster explain why the smoldering pile of ashes formerly known as your house won’t be covered. Those who are able to get it done cheaply either do it themselves or know someone qualified that can do it for very little.

As for getting an accurate old PM or Unisaw for no more than $300, good luck, deals come up periodically but are gone almost immediately. I need a new minivan and the Toyota Sienna I’ve spec’d is about $38K before tax, I’ve got $18K to spend after tax, if you can figure out how to make that happen legally, I’ll give you my Unisaw.

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jonnybrophy

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#14 posted 05-21-2017 12:38 AM


and if need be, how can i install 220 and how cheaply can it be done? ( I have space in my panel)

Thanks guys, I really appreciate it.

- jonnybrophy

First of all it s 240VAC, second, if you don t know how to do it and you re approaching the project with having it done “cheaply” you stand an excellent chance of having your adjuster explain why the smoldering pile of ashes formerly known as your house won t be covered. Those who are able to get it done cheaply either do it themselves or know someone qualified that can do it for very little.

As for getting an accurate old PM or Unisaw for no more than $300, good luck, deals come up periodically but are gone almost immediately. I need a new minivan and the Toyota Sienna I ve spec d is about $38K before tax, I ve got $18K to spend after tax, if you can figure out how to make that happen legally, I ll give you my Unisaw.

- bigblockyeti

I always like a good challenge :)

-- "If she dont find ya handsome, she better find ya handy"

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maxhall

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#15 posted 05-21-2017 12:56 AM


and if need be, how can i install 220 and how cheaply can it be done? ( I have space in my panel)

Thanks guys, I really appreciate it.

- jonnybrophy

First of all it s 240VAC

- bigblockyeti

Seriously going to quibble over him saying 220V (eye roll)?

I will say that $300 is a pretty low price for a used cabinet saw on CL. I will say that I often see deals like that on Bidspotter, public surplus, etc… Often pretty great deals can be had on bid sites if interested in that route (granted no haggling). I paid $750 for my PM66 3hp single phase. It didn’t come with any accessories, and I replaced the bearing on the motor and the arbor but other than that in really good condition. Definitely have to be watching CL like a hawk to get in on something priced that low, but that also means more work to get it running like a top (possible bondo on cabinet base, deep rust removal, etc) If its your 1st tool restoration it may
be worth your while to save until you have around $600 to spend as you’ll have alot more options and less to do.

Loren also had a great suggestion about possibly getting something else besides the tablesaw. Sometimes I’ll see something in a picture that I’ll ask about and end up getting a completely different item.

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