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Forum topic by BobLang posted 05-20-2017 06:09 PM 945 views 0 times favorited 35 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BobLang

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05-20-2017 06:09 PM

I’m thinking about offering SketchUp classes online. These would be live classes with no more than 10 participants. Using screen-sharing software we can see each other’s screens and I can answer questions and solve problems as we go.

I’m seeking input from folks like you. See this post to weigh in.

Thanks

-- Bob Lang, https://readwatchdo.com


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#1 posted 05-28-2017 08:38 PM

What would you charge???

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#2 posted 05-28-2017 08:49 PM

How many LJ’s design such complicated drawings that a simple program like Sketchup needs tutoring? Not bad mouthing this idea but it is such a simple program, designed for people like woodworkers. If it was one of the CAD programs and a different forum it would make more sense and probably get more response. If a person cannot figure out that simple program, they probably can’t read a blueprint anyway. JMHO

-- "Now we are getting no where, thanks to me"

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Rich

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#3 posted 05-28-2017 09:03 PM


How many LJ s design such complicated drawings that a simple program like Sketchup needs tutoring? Not bad mouthing this idea but it is such a simple program, designed for people like woodworkers. If it was one of the CAD programs and a different forum it would make more sense and probably get more response. If a person cannot figure out that simple program, they probably can t read a blueprint anyway. JMHO

- Jack Lewis

I’ve never attended one of his classes, but I have studied all of his videos and written tutorials. Do not discount the value that you can obtain from Bob Lang’s SketchUp expertise and teaching methods.

Yes, you can model things using whatever knowledge you’ve picked up from different places, but I suspect that you would find the techniques and shortcuts you can learn from him to be a game changer in how efficiently you create those models.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#4 posted 05-28-2017 09:17 PM

I like Bob’s vids etc. but I’d have to agree with Rich re shortcuts etc. You can teach yourself but the learning curve / time investment is steep just getting started. Not quite as hard but kinda like trying to use Photoshop out of the box. I’d rather use that time in the shop, not at the keyboard.

That being said, “live” classes would be great but might be tough what with differing time zones etc. IMHO

-- Andybb - GO HAWKS!

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#5 posted 05-29-2017 02:27 AM

Bob,
I read your post on your website and you are correct. There are many different learning styles. My style of learning is not intensive, like in a crammed two day session. I have learned many programs from Excel to Chief Architect. Both Chief and Excel can be learned on your own but a class just decreases the learning curve. IMO for me the spread out sessions are great for me because we can take what was gone over in the session and experiment with it during the time between the sessions. I checked out your class at Marc Adams School and decided against it because I wouldn’t have “practice time” between topics.
Maybe, I’m a slow learner because I have only been reading prints for over 40+ years as a General Contractor. I look forward to your offering and probably be a participant.

Marty

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#6 posted 05-29-2017 03:29 AM


How many LJ s design such complicated drawings that a simple program like Sketchup needs tutoring? Not bad mouthing this idea but it is such a simple program, designed for people like woodworkers. If it was one of the CAD programs and a different forum it would make more sense and probably get more response. If a person cannot figure out that simple program, they probably can t read a blueprint anyway. JMHO

- Jack Lewis

WOW,
You just punched a lot of lumberjocks right in the mouth.
Way to go!
Not everybody can be as smart as you.

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#7 posted 05-29-2017 03:40 AM


How many LJ s design such complicated drawings that a simple program like Sketchup needs tutoring? Not bad mouthing this idea but it is such a simple program, designed for people like woodworkers. If it was one of the CAD programs and a different forum it would make more sense and probably get more response. If a person cannot figure out that simple program, they probably can t read a blueprint anyway. JMHO

- Jack Lewis


This can only come from a person who himself has a very basic knowledge of a product. If you knew it deeper you would have known that some stuff is not very obvious or logical. For example do you know how to automatically get an optimal plywood layout and cut list from the drawings or that even such scenario exists ?

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#8 posted 05-29-2017 03:47 AM

If this for $$$ then will we have the options of 4 easy payments?

-- Desert_Woodworker

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Desert_Woodworker

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#9 posted 05-29-2017 03:54 AM



I ve never attended one of his classes, but I have studied all of his videos and written tutorials. Do not discount the value that you can obtain from Bob Lang s SketchUp expertise and teaching methods.
- RichTaylor

The forum didn’t disclose if it is a $$$ paid for class. Also, it did not say the 1st 5 Lumber Jocks who respond will get a discount…. and so on.
Respectfully,

-- Desert_Woodworker

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Rich

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#10 posted 05-29-2017 03:54 AM

How many LJ s design such complicated drawings that a simple program like Sketchup needs tutoring? Not bad mouthing this idea but it is such a simple program, designed for people like woodworkers. If it was one of the CAD programs and a different forum it would make more sense and probably get more response. If a person cannot figure out that simple program, they probably can t read a blueprint anyway. JMHO

- Jack Lewis

This can only come from a person who himself has a very basic knowledge of a product. If you knew it deeper you would have known that some stuff is not very obvious or logical. For example do you know how to automatically get an optimal plywood layout and cut list from the drawings or that even such scenario exists ?

- Carloz

+1 Carloz. Let a novice user make a router bit profile for a Follow Me extrusion from a photograph of a board cut with that bit’s profile. I have, and I did it with Bob’s instructions. I honestly can say that I would never have figured that out on my own.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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Rich

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#11 posted 05-29-2017 04:02 AM

I ve never attended one of his classes, but I have studied all of his videos and written tutorials. Do not discount the value that you can obtain from Bob Lang s SketchUp expertise and teaching methods.
- RichTaylor

The forum didn t disclose if it is a $$$ paid for class. Also, it did not say the 1st 5 Lumber Jocks who respond will get a discount…. and so on.
Respectfully,

- Desert_Woodworker

Respectfully? What the heck did your reply have to do with what I wrote? FWIW, I bought Bob’s excellent enhanced PDF on SketchUp. I did not get it for free.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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Andybb

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#12 posted 05-29-2017 04:18 AM

For example do you know how to automatically get an optimal plywood layout and cut list from the drawings or that even such scenario exists ?

- Carloz

NO! I was told it couldn’t be done! That’s worth the price of admission alone. And since I was the first to respond, does that guarantee me a seat at the table? :-)

How many LJ s design such complicated drawings that a simple program like Sketchup needs tutoring? Not bad mouthing this idea but it is such a simple program, designed for people like woodworkers. If it was one of the CAD programs and a different forum it would make more sense and probably get more response. If a person cannot figure out that simple program, they probably can t read a blueprint anyway. JMHO

- Jack Lewis

WOW,
You just punched a lot of lumberjocks right in the mouth.
Way to go!
Not everybody can be as smart as you.

- jbay


I too have to disagree Jack. Sketchup is no more intuitive to a woodworker than photoshop is to a photographer. It’s learning the shortcuts/commands related to your specific needs that make it intuitive. When I use Photoshop on an underwater photo I can get great results intuitively. If someone asked me to retouch a portrait I’d have to spend days/weeks/months learning the right techniques/filters/layers etc to use without some sort of tutorial done by someone who knows what they’re doing.

Bob, you started this. What’s the plan or are you just teasing us? Rich and I get very passionate about this stuff. ;-)

-- Andybb - GO HAWKS!

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GR8HUNTER

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#13 posted 05-29-2017 02:10 PM

hello all LJ’s …I’m not trying to be ignorant …... I just don’t understand sketch up …. when I have a project to do I make a rough drawing of it …. for sizing and materials list mostly ….. so say I want side of small table to be 14” ...and tops of my legs are 1 1/2” .... I KNOW to make stretcher 11” long ….so enlighten me on this sketch up …what would it tell me different them 11” long …..maybe I just don’t understand it well enough …. PLEASE help me to understand what I am missing by NOT having this as a tool. Thanks all :<))

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Dan Higham

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#14 posted 05-29-2017 02:22 PM

Out of pure curiosity, do people here own Pro licenses for SketchUp? $695 is a lot of money for a hobbyist woodworker. I recently built a plugin that would provide a cut list and req’d board footage but it pro features and since then my trial license ran out. I’m sure it never used to be that expensive!

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Rich

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#15 posted 05-29-2017 03:13 PM



Out of pure curiosity, do people here own Pro licenses for SketchUp? $695 is a lot of money for a hobbyist woodworker. I recently built a plugin that would provide a cut list and req d board footage but it pro features and since then my trial license ran out. I m sure it never used to be that expensive!

- Dan Higham

Yeah, it is a lot of money. I don’t need the additional features though, so I don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything. For professionals it’s a different story. My son is involved in building renovation and development and works with architects, contractors, etc, and needs the Pro features like Layout.

Here is an article from Bob Lang's blog with a good discussion of what Pro buys you, and how you can accomplish some of the same features in Make.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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