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613 days ago |
Hey gang, I just got my bonus at work and while I’m saving most of it, I’m going to spend some of it on some tools . My quandry is, what to get? Here are some of my thoughts and a list of what I have. After that, I’ll open it up to y’all for your thoughts. I’m setting up my garage workshop, and I need shop cabinets, so I was planning on spending some money on some plywood to build them. I have also seen the new Steel City tablesaw model 35601 on which SC has a nice price ($899) and a nice rebate ($100 off). I’m also considering some planes from Lie-Nielsen (LA block and #4 1/2 smoother). I suppose I could also get some of the new Jet parallel clamps everyone’s raving about. I have the following power tools: My only hand tools are: I’ve heard many of you say to buy the best tools you can afford, and also to buy tools for the projects at hand. Given that this will probably be my last substantial tool purchase for at least the next year, I would like to hear how y’all think I should spend some of my bonus. And yes, I am deliberately not telling you what my budget is. Thanks—Erik -- Erik garagewoodworker.blogspot.com |
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613 days ago |
Hi Erik, Buy what y’all need, and no more. But a Leigh jig would be good all the same! John (UK) -- Semper Fidelis - I started with nothing; I still have most of it left. |
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613 days ago |
Have you considered spending some of it on lumber? You could always build a few things with the tools you have, sell them, and then have even more money for new tools. -- JP, Shelbyville, KY |
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613 days ago |
I know where you could send some of that bonus if you are finding it difficult to spend!!!!! Welcome aboard…. I would consider a good 8” jointer -- Max "Desperado", Salt Lake City, UT |
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613 days ago |
Hmmmm, Some suggestions. An Air Compressor and Finish Nailer I would look for a used 4 and 1/2 bailey plane and get a set of hock blades I have and would recommend the Lie-Nielson low angle block plane, but would probably put it below a jointer and a planer in priority given your tool list. -- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov |
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613 days ago |
I like the wood idea.. increase the tool fund -- "Functional WoodArt" by Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan) |
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613 days ago |
And a belt sander |
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613 days ago |
Erik, First of all, you can start by purchasing me a jointer. Then a … Just kidding. Actually, buying a bunch of lumber won’t do you any good without a jointer and planer. I would actually purchase those before a new table saw since you already have one. The reason is because you can purchase rough sawn lumber from a local mill at a much cheaper rate than say Menards. I didn’t see that you have a band saw in your midst either. Those are always nice for cutting curves and also re-sawing lumber. I will often use my band saw to cut a small log to fit on my lathe or I’ll also use it to split a thick board in half and then plane the two pieces to the desired size. This can save money as well. Good luck with your cash, if you can’t figure out how to spend it, just send it my way! :) -- There are three types of people in the world, those who can count and those who can't! |
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613 days ago |
I can honestly say that by far the overwhelming consensus is a planer and a jointer, tools I don’t have. The reason I am considering a new table saw is because I’ve got the $99 Ryobi job from Home Depot, that my Dad got for me a few years back as my first “real” power tool. I’m at the point now where I am either going to spend the time and money to build jigs and devices to make that saw workable for my level of woodworking (novice, but getting better), or buy a new saw. Meaning, I’ve already put on a new Freud blade and I’m just about to finish building a Biesemeyer-style rip fence to fit my little saw. Next up is a wraparound outfeed table. Add up all that and I’m way over the original $99 cost. But the saw works. Part of me says get something I don’t have, like good hand tools or a bandsaw or planer & jointer, and part of me says get a bigger better table saw to replace what is arguably the weakest tool in the shop. Thanks for the advice and comments, please keep em coming. Erik, dazed and confused for the moment -- Erik garagewoodworker.blogspot.com |
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613 days ago |
Another option is to look for good used tools on Craigs list . A table saw upgrade should be pretty easy to find in the Denver area. This Jet for $500 is a good example. I would guess it is already gone… -- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov |
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613 days ago |
and don’t forget to check out what you can get through LJ so that Martin can get some income to support the site. -- "Functional WoodArt" by Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan) |
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613 days ago |
If you decide on a Bandsaw, check on this one.Rikon -- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1 |
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613 days ago |
I know how you feel, I got my bonus and I wanted to go out and buy tools. It looks like you’ve got a decent start to your tools. The can certainly do many things you’d need already. I’d second the need for a planer. If you don’t want a jointer too, you can always cobble up a jointing sled for a planer (I’ve done it with fair success, but if you’ve got a lot of stock or long stock, it’s gonna take a while) I would really recommend a good router table. A solid table with a good split fence and some t-track for miter gauges and other attachments can open up whole worlds of possiblities. There are decent models to buy, plus a lot of plans. If you’ve got space, think about a complete router cabinet – it’ll give you storage and control dust/noise. I didn’t build it, but I hear a lot of people like Norm’s from New Yankee. For what it’s worth though, some of my bonus kinda, sorta went to an Xbox 360. Hey, the controller could be considered a hand tool, right? Anyone? However, the rest is probably heading for a shed, a much needed electrical upgrade (I couldn’t plug in bandsaw right now!), new roof, fence for the sheep, etc. |
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613 days ago |
Don’t piss around on a 1 1/2 hp table saw, when you cay buy a 3 HP TS for about a $1,000 and not have to upgrade for years. I bought what i thought was a 3 HP table saw and it bogs down when cutting thick (1 1/2” or thicker) material. WAIT ! It even bogs down cutting 4/4 Oak. IF YOU’RE DOING THIS AS A HOBBY BUY A SMALL HOBBY SIZED SAW. If you’re doing this for a living or you plan on doing a lot of different things, buy the biggest best saw you can afford so that it doesn’t become a hinderance in the future, and doesn’t consume any more thought |
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612 days ago |
I was going to suggest sending me your bonus, but sounds like others got there first. I would say even if you bought a new table saw, you would probably be making jigs, outfeed tables, etc. for it too. So I do not think that would be a cost saver in those terms. Does the Ryobi still fit your needs? Can it still handle the cuts you do now? Is it accurate? If so, then the jointer and planer would be first on my list. Otherwise, the table saw would be a great start. Maybe even a cabinet saw, if you have the room. Band Saw, Air compressor, nail gun, router table, Leigh jig are all great items as well. It is just a matter of priorities and of course dollars. Let us know what you pick. -- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com |
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612 days ago |
I would also call your local high school and find out where they buy their tools… Then go to the same source and find out if they sell used tools… Here, with timberlinetools.com they bring used stuff back from people and tools and sell on consignment… the schools are upgrading to sawstop saws and trading in barely used equipment on new stuff. I got my jointer which was new 4 months before from a guy through them who was upgrading to a 10 inch for $1000. The powermatic PJ882 jointer is listed on Amazon (these guys are an amazon supplier) for $1700 bucks… -- Drew, Pleasant Grove, Utah |
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612 days ago |
The most important tools used in my workshop, in order of preference, are: 1. Table Saw I mostly make cabinets, so the above is what is important to me. What you are going to be making should help you with what tools to buy. I have just started making some furniture pieces so anything to help make mortise and tenons will be on my priority wish list. -- Fred Childs, Pasadena, CA - - - Law of the Workshop: Any tool, when dropped, will roll to the least accessible corner. |
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612 days ago |
Erik, I had the same decision to make last spring. I didn’t get a bonus but i did sell a lawn tractor that was too big for my yard. I sold it for $1800. I went to Grizzly and bought an 8 inch jointer, 14 inch band-saw (ultimate), and their heavy duty bench top drill press. I use all of these and never regret buying them!! Now I wish I had lumber, clamps, and a new table saw. |
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612 days ago |
TABLE SAW, TABLE SAW, TABLE SAW 3 HP AND NEVER LOOK BACK |
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612 days ago |
I have to agree with Obi. When I was in the exact same position as you I went back and forth over which Delta Unisaw to purchase; their hybrid 1.75 hp or a 3 hp. I opted for the hybrid to have more funds for the jointer and planer. I wish I had the 3hp though because I’m in for the long haul. However, I have had very good luck with my 1.75 hp saw. It remains to be seen if it will hold up for many years as the hybrids are sort of a new thing. If you go the jointer planer route, I HIGHLY recommend the Delta 22-580 13” planer. I love mine. Practically no snipe! Seriously. -- Jeff, St. Paul, MN |
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609 days ago |
Lucky you Drew, most of the high schools out here are giving up woodshop. One of the two high schools in our town does not even have a wood shop. The other has tools that are mostly 40+ years old. When a part breaks, the tool is down until a part can be specially made, parts are no longer available. Did you make that choice yet Erik? -- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com |
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609 days ago |
I’d like to suggest you first find a project you’d like to tackle. See where it leads tool wise, and purchase tools piece by piece as needed. I love the jointer/planer ideas, but lots of things can be made with quality plywoods cut with your table saw or circular saw, including the cabinets and other organizational needs for your shop. You could reserve some of that money to use at a later date as you get into the finer aspects of woodworking where specialty tools are a must. This also make a valid justification for just about any item or tool you buy. -- Larry, New Jersey |
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608 days ago |
A good point Teach. I try to fund my purchases as I go, and get the things I feel I really need to complete the work. Then I can also use them going forward on future projects. -- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com |
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607 days ago |
Hey gang, Right now I am leaning toward buying the lumber necessary to build my “west wall” of shop cabinets and storage. Right now I think that’s what I need most. I’m thinking that experience will help me figure out what I want in the way of tools. I’m also leaning toward getting stuff I don’t have (bandsaw and good hand planes, maybe a dovetail saw), as well as tuition for classes. Although I did drop by Rockler today and they have the new Jet Parallel Clamps in 50in lengths, 2 for $49.00. I bought 4, as that works out to nearly a buy one, get one free deal. I promise you, those clamps will be sold out by Saturday. -- Erik garagewoodworker.blogspot.com |
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607 days ago |
That sounds like a good plan. You can easily spend too much on things you think you might need. Your approach is solid. Man, I’m too far away from my local rocker. That sounds like a real good deal. -- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov |
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595 days ago |
So did you finally make up your mind? I was wondering how things turned out. -- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov |
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595 days ago |
I got the same clamps but woodcraft was out but since the deal goes to the end of the month I think they will get more in… anyhow I got them at timberline… they matched the deal. If you are still considering other tools I would be glad to give you some ideas… I have been outfitting my garage… and have read about all there is to know about every cabnet system from Gladiator to Ultimate… If you like red there are some new ones at sears that are nice as well… Also… I have been carefully outfitting the shop with tools that I have shopped for for the past 6 months and read about off and on for 5 years getting ready to be at this point… Drew -- Drew, Pleasant Grove, Utah |
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594 days ago |
To ErickinColorado: My choice would be a Ridgid 10” tablesaw with the Herc-U-lift mobil base. It has lots of power, accurate fence and blade adjustments and sells for about $ 550. at The Home Depot. It is hefty, weighing 287 lbs., but is easily moved about with the mobil base. It has a 1 1/2 hp motor, but never seems to load down… I bought mine three years ago…..and couldn’t be happier. -- WeeWilly |
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593 days ago |
Hey gang, Thanks to all who replied. Here’s what I spent some money on: 4 Jet 50” Parallel clamps from Rockler. I got them on that 2 for $50 sale a few weeks back. I held off on the tablesaw upgrade. The Steel City cabinet saw I really want is on a sweet sale deal at Tool King (their store is about 10 minutes from my work so I go drool over it sometimes). And I’ve heard nothing but good things about the Ridgid contractor’s saw that Willy mentions. But, I decided not to buy any more tools right now and save some money for woodworking classes this summer and in the fall. I think at this point I have a basic set of tools that I can work with for a while, what I really need now is more knowledge and skill building. I’ll keep y’all posted. Thanks—Erik -- Erik garagewoodworker.blogspot.com |
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593 days ago |
sounds like a perfect plan. -- "Functional WoodArt" by Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan) |
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584 days ago |
Hmm – this is all very interesting. However, I dream of building my own furniture one day (ahem, Danish born, and a furniture affectionado…). My dilemma is this – I wish I would have put the money on the table saw over the slider – since there isn’t much furniture building to go on with a slider… Sorry – rambling – Yes, I am used to shopping at box stores, I barely know where Rockler and Woodcraft are around here. Oh – and yes, I have a small contractors TS, but the rails for whatever reason are not 3/4” – so forget about jigs unless I put a whole table together for it – and then squaring that would be a pain… So there you have it – my inagural question. Apologies for rambling about something you spend far too much time talking about – but all ya’all seem to have a pretty good idea what you are talking about. Terkel |
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583 days ago |
Obviously new tools is a great way to squander bonus monies, but I’d also recommend you take a look at protecting your hearing while you spend your free-time playing around with your new toys. www.sensgard.com offers revolutionary hearing protection inexpensively. Their unlike anything I’ve ever used, and best of all it doesn’t cost much. I’d Definitely take a look!!! |
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