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Forum topic by rawdawgs50 posted 11-15-2010 10:36 PM 2871 views 3 times favorited 5 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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rawdawgs50

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11-15-2010 10:36 PM

Topic tags/keywords: charles neil dovetail

I don’t know how many of you knew about this new dovetail jig by Charles Neil but it was announced yesterday its a go. It does one thing…perfectly. Through-cut dovetails that look hand cut. So ya, its another dovetail jig on the market….but this one, to the best of my knowledge, is the only one that can emulate this look.

Anyways, here is the video of it in action for those who are interested

http://charlesneilwoodworking.com/category_player.php?type=1&cat=0&video=DovetailBitandJig.flv

and the Q/A forum
http://intheworkshop.wordpress.com/2010/11/13/dovetail-jig-not-cheap-survey-coming/


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#1 posted 11-15-2010 11:34 PM

I don’t see how it is any different than the Keller. Am I missing something?

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#2 posted 11-15-2010 11:49 PM

Nooo..not handcut dovetails..but the “looks” of handcut dovetails with a.router.. Heh heh.. And yes..your missing something if you dont have one of these jigs..I have the leigh..cant.stand the damn thing..therefore i dont use it.. This new jig give you the narrow throat that handcut dovetails look like..its easier to set up..and faster too..i wanted a jig that i dont have to worry if the pins and tails are going to line up or am i going to spend time filling in gaps because something was off in the initial set up..

But like Charles said..if you got a jig..and it works good for you..use that.. Me..I need speed…looks and ease of use and like it when.people ask me how long it took me to cut all the dovetails by hand..and the look on their facrs when I tell them Ididnt do it by hand..

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#3 posted 11-16-2010 01:32 AM

Ok don’t shoot me down, but they don’t look like hand cut dovetails to me. It’s a nice jig though and if you’ve got to knock out a load of dovetails in a hurry and this method works for you, I say go for it. In my opinion though, the Woodrat (that has been around for years) produces dovetails that are more akin to hand cut dovetails than this jig, plus it does a whole host of other joints as well. Not sure what the price difference is though.

Check out the Woodrat gallery of joints.

Decisions, decisions.

-- Andy -- "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." (Michelangelo)

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rawdawgs50

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#4 posted 11-16-2010 05:15 AM

The WoodRat is a whole different tool. Quite a bit more money because everything is “a la carte” depending on what you do…including the bits. Nice tool no doubt, but its hardly comparable to this jig.

If you want the best handcut look and a no fuss setup there is nothing like it on the market to my knowledge.

It is not a “bells and whistles” tool. It was designed to do one thing only. In my opinion it has hit the mark of what ww’s have been trying to obtain for years, but lack the skills to do it by hand fast enough to make money. If its something you are looking for in your work, then it will catch your eye immediately. Otherwise it might be dismissed as just another jig. To each their own.

Dave- It is very similar to the Keller in how it works. But the similarities stop there as far as the ability to get a skinny steep dovetail. The angles and spacing between centers is different as well as the template thickness I believe. It still uses bearings on bits rather than guide bushing for the most accurate and smooth cut. The dovetail bits are custom ground by Whiteside for the carbide bits and Forest Tool who specializes in HSS bits which was needed to get something strong enough to handle the skinny neck and angle of entry (You can not buy these bits anywhere else from either of these companies). So to sum it up. If you like the Keller style jig which is pretty damn nice, than this is icing on the cake. Plain and simple.

BTW Its made in the USA…all of it including the JIG. Pretty nice.

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#5 posted 11-16-2010 09:21 AM

I’m not a jig dovetail guy, but if I had a lot of them to do, That is what I’d be getting. I have thought about ways to rough them out on table saw, ect, then finish up by hand to speed things up a bit.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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