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Forum topic by Hard_as_Wood posted 05-10-2017 06:13 PM 1745 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Hard_as_Wood

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05-10-2017 06:13 PM

OK, so I have a small shop. little under 200 sq.ft.
I had a power shop before. Short story: I got frustrated, sold everything, regretted it, starting over….if at first you don’t succeed, get angry, quit, then try try again.

We have our house for sale, so we could be moving a month from now or over a year from now. Who knows.

My budget is about $1200-1300 for everything.

I plan on making a simple step stool with tool tray underneath and then want to get into box making and small furniture.

Do I buy a bunch of cheap stuff like Wen lunchbox planer, 14” BS, or should I get one nice tool?

Not sure if I want to do hand tools, very appealing when it comes to moving, but the thought of having to lots of resawing, ripping by hand doesn’t exactly bring a smile to my face. Good news, I’m very fortunate to have mills very close by that could easily custom cut me stuff. Maybe that would be the way to go then when I move into the new house then buy the nice tools then… That’s is kind of what I’m thinking.

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Loren

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#1 posted 05-10-2017 06:17 PM

There aren’t any shortcuts to becoming a skilled
woodworker but an enormous amount of work
in solid wood is simplified with a band saw.

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them700project

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#2 posted 05-10-2017 06:56 PM

with $1300 for small projects

I would by mostly hand power tools.
$100 2 saw horses and a sheet of plywood
$300 Jigsaw and a guide for ripping straight
$100 RO sander and some pads 150,220
$200 Cordless drill/impacter set/bits
$100 Kreg jig
$100 Block plane and some card scrapers.
$200 Clamps
$100 hand tools
$50 Glue and glue up stuff
$50 Squares/tape

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rwe2156

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#3 posted 05-10-2017 07:17 PM

For the type of things you’re building, hand tools to prep stock isn’t that hard.

For anything more than boxes, etc, your shop size is going to limit your machines and your budget is going to limit you for all kinds of tools except the most economical (translation: cheap).

That being said, I started out with a 8×12 storage builiding and a skil saw screwed to a piece of plywood, then I went to 12×16, then a horse barn conversion. Aftera major expansion/remodel, I’m up to 1600 SF and running out of room again….....

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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morning_wood

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#4 posted 05-10-2017 07:45 PM

them700project just about covered everything you would need.

I work out of a small one car garage. You learn to get creative with your space. I like to keep everything mobile and work out of the driveway.

Start with small and easy projects that will give you a confidence boost upon completion.

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MrUnix

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#5 posted 05-10-2017 09:20 PM

Do I buy a bunch of cheap stuff like Wen lunchbox planer, 14” BS, or should I get one nice tool?

For $1200, you can get a lot of machinery if you consider used. Cabinet saw, band saw, planer, jointer and more. If you are looking at buying new – then you are going to wind up with a bunch of cheap tools that probably will get you frustrated again. Just my half cent.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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mrg

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#6 posted 05-10-2017 09:29 PM

Craigslist is your friend.

-- mrg

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woodbutcherbynight

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#7 posted 05-10-2017 10:39 PM



Craigslist is your friend.

- mrg

Very true, picked up a 12” Grizzly sander for $100 recently.

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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Hockey

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#8 posted 05-11-2017 01:14 AM

You can find used Shopsmiths for as little as $300. That would be a good start. You get a Table saw, lathe, drill press, horizontal bore, and disc sander. Sometimes, they even come with a bandsaw and/or jointer and/or planer and/or belt sander and/or strip sander, for very little money.

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FoundSheep

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#9 posted 05-11-2017 12:28 PM


the thought of having to lots of resawing, ripping by hand doesn t exactly bring a smile to my face.

I would advocate to get a hybrid shop. A decent bandsaw and lunchbox planer would solve your concern, and allow you to get back to the fun stuff quicker. I also agree with mrg; Craigslist will help with those larger tools as other people look to offload.

If you’re looking to get into hand tools, I think it makes sense to get a mix of new/old. Sometimes you’ll need to know what you’re aiming for (like saws) while others you can get up to prime working condition easily with not a lot of effort (like chisels and planes). I’d recommend:
- a pair of saw benches better to make sturdy ones than buy cheap ones from my experience
- a carcass saw Buying new allowos you to know what to expect from a saw, so when you go to resharpen it you’ll be able to bring it back. This can last you a long time as a primary bench saw. I even push it for small rip cuts for tenons and such.
- a hand saw, there are a couple of options for new; 1 and 2 are fantastic or even something like 3 can last you for a few months until you’re more comfortable.
- a 1/2” chisel, either new or old, it would be easy to sharpen with a cheap oil stone or sandpaper.
- a #4-6 hand plane, that size can be pushed into a variety of tasks for quite a while (I used a #4 for about a year); better to look for an old one and sharpen it up.
- a decent drill and hammer; new or used, as long as your not getting bottom of the barrel you’ll be fine for a while
- a knife, like a compact razor blade, for marking lines, basic shaping, and sharpening pencils
- a combination square, new or used, if it locks well and has deep markings, it will help you align boards and determine squareness.
- a handful of clamps; you can get a lot of used clamps for the same price as new, and probably made with better materials

-- -Will, FoundSheep Designs

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rwe2156

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#10 posted 05-11-2017 02:13 PM



For $1200, you can get a lot of machinery if you consider used. Cabinet saw, band saw, planer, jointer and more. If you are looking at buying new – then you are going to wind up with a bunch of cheap tools that probably will get you frustrated again. Just my half cent.

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

I’‘ll believe it when I see it :-)

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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MrWhit

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#11 posted 05-11-2017 03:53 PM

I have a full compliment of awesome antique hand tools. Cost me less than a thousand. The only power tool I use consistently is my table saw, and I got that used for less than 500. It’s pretty decent too. Haven’t run into anything I couldn’t make. FYI at one time I had pretty much a power shop. 10 yrs later and its almost all hand tool work.

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MrUnix

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#12 posted 05-11-2017 04:53 PM

For $1200, you can get a lot of machinery if you consider used. Cabinet saw, band saw, planer, jointer and more. If you are looking at buying new – then you are going to wind up with a bunch of cheap tools that probably will get you frustrated again. Just my half cent.
- MrUnix

I’ll believe it when I see it :-)
- rwe2156

That can be arranged :)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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daveshilling

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#13 posted 05-12-2017 04:06 AM

For 1300 you can have a fully functional power garage… as usual, you can either spend time, or spend money. If you don’t want to spend time or money, then your options dwindle.

Here would be an example of spending $1300 on craigslist for tools based on ads today:

10” grizzly cabinet saw $450
14” band saw $200
Wen drill press (walmart deal) $60
stanley no 5 plane: $50
two sided japanese pull saw: $40
4 pc narex chisel set: $40
blades, sandpaper, etc: $100
sharpening accessories: $100
clamps: $100 (i got 10 24 inch besseys this week for $50!)
measuring tools, squares, etc. $100

total $1240

and the rest is all piecemeal depending on what you like to do…but you can make benches, sawhorses, cabinets, , sleds, marking tools, mallets, etc. over time, and that’s part of the fun!

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realcowtown_eric

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#14 posted 05-12-2017 11:56 PM

If I had to start over, and provided all yer insurances, business license WCB legalities os currentetct, scope out yer local housing c social housing corporation. Work there., learn to bite yer tongue- you’ll see things that make you shake yer head, but if yer starting over, well it’s not going to be a chairful of bowlies

-- Real_cowtown_eric

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