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Forum topic by tlr posted 11-11-2010 11:26 PM 2348 views 1 time favorited 42 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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tlr

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11-11-2010 11:26 PM

Ok now that the shop space is almost finished I will ask the age old question of first large tools to buy?
I will start off by saying that I will be buying a dust collection system first and would love to get input on that. (size and ability to remove dust) The shop is 28’x28’ with 9’ ceiling height. I have a center beam running down the middle so I am thinking of a layout that takes advantage of that and running vac. down that and off shooting to either side. Now back to tools, I know every body will ask what do you plan on building? (what ever strikes my fancy) etc. I do have a limited budget but still can get a few things to get started all at once. I do not need the best or largest, (it is a hobby) but I do want good quality tools. I do have basic hand tools and a nice chop saw.
So I invite you all to throw in your two cents and begin the list and why! :)


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#1 posted 11-11-2010 11:39 PM

I think I would figure out what tools I was going to buy before I would deal with the dust collection issue.

I’m not minimizing the importance of duct collection, but I would want to make sure the dust collection system was adequate for the tools I needed to use.

Wouldn’t it be a bummer to install a dust collection system, then discover it didn’t have enough capacity for the 37” planer you decide to install?

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#2 posted 11-11-2010 11:45 PM

If I had 220v, and would set a shop from the get go, I would not go with anything less than a cyclone knowing what I know now.

I personally would go with the ClearVue, but that really is a personal choice. Oneida, PSI, and others have very good cyclones as well.

just make sure that you have a rough idea of what power tools you’ll be using so that you can plan ahead the ducting properly.

the rest of the tools really depends on what you’re planning to do in terms of projects. to some a Table saw is essential, to others it would be nothing but a paper weight collecting rust.

what are you planning to be doing?

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#3 posted 11-11-2010 11:46 PM

I understand your point but isn’t there some general rules for distance or runs and volume? And don’t I need something until I get that 37” planer? (wow that is some wood) :)

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#4 posted 11-11-2010 11:49 PM

well in most shops, the table saw is the work horse…as far as power tools go..then a planer, joiner and bandsaw..i went with delta 15 years ago and have not had a bit of trouble..lots of folks around here like grizzly, and of coarse powermatic is a wonderful choice also…you can find good tools on graig list if you shop for awhile, and if you can stretch your dollars and get more tools the better huh…im sure plenty og folks will chime in here…good luck with your choices and most of all enjoy your new shop and enjoy your learning in wood working…always more to learn…grizzman

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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tlr

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#5 posted 11-11-2010 11:51 PM

Purplev, I am at the point where I want to enjoy creating almost anything from tables to boats, I think that is why I ask the question to help at least make educated choices, if I fall in love with a particular type or style i will adjust but right now I dont have any big ticket items.

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tlr

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#6 posted 11-11-2010 11:56 PM

Grizzman, thanks I will ask another specific question and that is regarding Grizzly tools (how fitting) I am only two hours from the PA store and may take the time to visit, anyone have Grizzly tools? How do they perform? I have been looking at the new “White series” and it seems as thought it may be a good middle of the road for someone like me!
By the way I have enjoyed putting the shop space together and hope to continue!

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#7 posted 11-12-2010 12:01 AM

first of all you shuold get an older little worn out relaxing chair a propper reading lamp, a good sized fridge and a coffeemaker and next an office chair and drawingtable with tools like pencils and different rulers and don´t forget the cofee mug and shelfs and what ells you like to look at and inspire …......no not those kind of curves
all this is very importen in the corner of a mans-cave allso called the inspirations idea and solutions chamber
why the fridge … well you have to ask Degoose (Larry) about that….lol

good luck with the set up and buying tools

Dennis

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tlr

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#8 posted 11-12-2010 12:21 AM

Dennisgrosen, like the style and I am all over it, need a fridge but have a drawing table, a nice chair that needs a little love and… a great couch that we couldn’t find a place for when we moved so in the “space” it went.
I have scrounged a file cabinet for storing the plethora of reading material that my wife cant stand in the house any longer, a few pieces of art, and even a huge chunk of a tree that got blown apart by lightening last year for inspiration (to be hung on a wall of course) it is art.

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#9 posted 11-12-2010 12:34 AM

if you take a serius shoptour on L J you deffently will get amazed how many
that have such a corner some is very small maybee only a shelf with out a fridge but the corner is there
believe me if they ain´t so lucky that they have a room in the house very close to the shop
they can call the libaryoffice…..LOL

Take care
Dennis

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grizzman

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#10 posted 11-12-2010 12:48 AM

the other thing you need in your mans corner is a hat like dennis has…no man should be without one

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#11 posted 11-12-2010 12:54 AM

as to grizzly tools…many jocks have them and are very happy with them..a1jim has several , ellen35 has there bandsaw…nbeener has the band saw…and the list would go on…they are a good tool and price wise they are a good sale..they do have sales from time to time …tent sales..and good prices are had…the owner of grizzly is very approachable..he is on some other wood sites and has been reached in regards to issues from time to time and he personally responds…this i know from a good friend…...so i do recommend them..but i would also say if you want a higher end tool ..powermatic is a good buy…but make sure you get that hat…and wear it during important decisions…very important…lol

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#12 posted 11-12-2010 12:54 AM

nop Grizzman a thinkinghat like the crazy inventor from the Donald Duck magzins
(Georg gearloose the translated Danish name for him) or his brainhammer …lol

Dennis

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#13 posted 11-12-2010 12:58 AM

oh and my corner has a fridge and wood stove…some fine pancakes and eggs and bacon have graced that stove…nothing like the smell of fresh bacon cooking in your shop….if i have missed anything i will try to add it here…lol…but i think ive covered it…...good luck with the tools…nothing like the sound of a smooth running table saw…3hp would be good….if your going to do heavy duty..then 5hp….....my delta is a 3hp and has cut everything ive thrown at it…..grizz

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#14 posted 11-12-2010 01:10 AM

a good wood stove is a great tool to have…and if a few pancakes come along…the better…lol

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#15 posted 11-12-2010 01:19 AM

I almost forgot it
beside the corner you need a gooood workbench and the best layout tools you can afford
a smother ,blockplane and a shoulderplane + a few good cheisels
even in a powertool shop they can save you alot of times and time

Dennis

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