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05-05-2017 12:09 AM

Just received this today and put it to use marking some hard maple drawer sides.
Am I missing something? Gives a horrible line, very rough, blunt, and shallow, despite multiple passes.
Seems to be crushing the fiber more than anything else.

My old antique style wooden gauge with a dull cutter does a much better job.

I must be doing something wrong or missing something…

Thanks.


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#1 posted 05-05-2017 12:22 AM

That’s not what you expect from Veritas. Which model did you get? Does the wheel feel sharp? I have the JessEm gauge, and it’s sharp as a knife. I’m sure I could draw blood if I tried.

Fortunately, they have outstanding customer service and will get you taken care of.

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#2 posted 05-05-2017 12:29 AM

Dang – that JessEm looks fantastic! I hadn’t heard about that maker before.
I was debating between Veritas and the Tite-mark.

(I got the micro adjust model.)

I think I’m just not used to the veritas. It cuts a narrower, crisper line than my old gauge, but it’s barely breaking the surface – barely enough for the chisel edge to “fall into” it. In fact I can barely even SEE it.

I’m not impressed. My old gauge is actually cutting a real groove. Used it on probably 50 drawers and have never sharpened the blade.

I think I’ll get that JessEm!

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#3 posted 05-05-2017 01:11 AM

I have the Veritas gauge. I love it and have had no trouble at all. Nice crisp lines. Let veritas customer service know about your trouble. They are top notch and will take care of you.

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#4 posted 05-05-2017 01:28 AM

I looked at the Tite-mark too. Lots of bells and whistles, but more than I needed.

The JessEm is a real beast. I like the wide face and heft of the handle. Across grain, it severs the fibers nicely for those times I try to channel my inner Frank Klausz and copy what I see him do. Notice I said try :)

I was browsing through your portfolio and your work is beautiful. Really impressive. I like all the vintage machines too, especially that jointer. I have a band saw made by the Atlas Press Co. in Kalamazoo, MI in the early ‘50s. It’s a modest 12” unit, but I replaced the original Westinghouse 1/4 horse with a Dayton 3/4 horse that I’d had sitting in it’s original box for years, and have it tuned up about as well as something that old can be. It’s the first power saw my dad let me use when I was about 10. I’ll upgrade someday, but it’s got such sentimental value that I’ll keep it too.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#5 posted 05-05-2017 01:37 AM

Rich, thanks for the kind words man! I really appreciate it.
I have to update my site as a lot of the machines have changed.
I now have a 30” Yates American band saw – amazing machine.
Also a 16” Northfield table saw, that makes you want to duck out of the way when it’s powered on. Cuts through 12/4 maple like butter.
Your little guy sounds nice!

Interesting note about the marking gauges:
I also purchased at the same time from Veritas, their 3-in-1 brass micro gauge – has option for either wheel, pin or knife. I tried the wheel. It beats the micro adjust full size gauge hands down – not even close. Super crisp, perfect tight line, zero tearing of fibers. I don’t get this at all. The full size gauge is twice as much money. I also find the controls pretty convoluted – too many knobs and wheels and screws. Micro adjust not at all intuitive.
Definitely sending that one back. Will keep the brass micro and get the JessEm for heavier, larger work, and just to have two.

Thanks for turning me on to that!

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#6 posted 05-05-2017 03:51 AM

Good Lord, when did that JessEm come out? Looks like a light saber.

Sounds like you got a rare dud. I’ve got a Veritas Dual Marking Gauge that came very sharp, but every now and then I sharpen the wheels on it and my Woodriver wheel gauge on a 1K waterstone, which helps.

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#7 posted 05-05-2017 05:44 AM

That 3-in-1 looks sweet, Ben. Can I live without it? Maybe, but why try? Looks like a win-win on this post.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#8 posted 05-05-2017 06:59 AM

I have the Veritas® Wheel Marking Gauges and there pocket gauge and cannot find any fault with either?
I’m glad we have a Lee Valley in the area or else all my tool orders would have to be online, Nice to actually touch something or as with their seminars try them out before buying.

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#9 posted 05-05-2017 07:26 AM

I have one of those (Veritas Wheel Marking Gauge) and it work great. Are you sure the wheel is tight so it doesn’t rotate when your making a mark?

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#10 posted 05-05-2017 02:22 PM

So .. did you try sharpening the cutter wheel?

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#11 posted 05-05-2017 04:15 PM

The cutter doesn’t come sharp enough from the factory. Sharpen it.

It is much smaller cut line than a pin style, so it is different, and you do need to practice with it. But… sharpen it. If it’s dull it requires too much pressure, more than you are used to.

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#12 posted 05-05-2017 05:12 PM

I’ll bet you a cup of coffee Veritas will replace that cutter wheel if you contact them. I’ve had mine for a couple of years a really like it.

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#13 posted 05-06-2017 10:55 AM

I think Bob is correct, they will replace it. When I bought mine quite some time ago, I bought a spare cutter…it’s never been opened. They are easy to sharpen as well.

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#14 posted 05-06-2017 11:23 AM

I have the Veritas and it’s ok. You do need to sharpen it however. My preferred marking gauge is from Rob Cosman which is much better and the gauge has a flat spot so it doesn’t roll when you lay it down. Also, from Rob you can get a larger, thicker blade that is useable in the gauge. In addition, I have the Cosman mortise gauge and it is excellent.

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