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05-02-2017 02:04 AM

Topic tags/keywords: hand saws dovetail saws hand tools hand planes

Hi guys, this is my first post to the “forum”, so forgive me if I’m doing it wrong. My name is Paul, I run a small company called Space Age Plane Co. I make custom hand planes and infill planes, but I also sell a lot of vintage tools. I love hand saws for lots of reasons, but one of the main ones is that I feel it is one of the only tools where a vintage one can be bought and if in good condition and/or after being tuned, it will perform as well as anything that can be bought new today. Before anyone tries to argue that point, yes, I own 5 saws made from the best makers today and love all of them, but I still like my tuned up vintage ones just the same. So, my question is; If you were in the market today, would buying a “set” of tuned up, ready to use vintage saws appeal to you? By a set, I mean a crosscut hand, a rip hand, a tenon or carcass saw, and a dovetail saw. The reason I ask is that I have lots of saws(over 200 that will be sold) and would like to expedite the process, so selling them as a set would cut down on time for me and expense to the buyer. I’m thankful for any input. Be sure to check out my site as well, www.spaceageplane.com. Thanks!

-- Paul @ Space Age Plane Co.


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#1 posted 05-02-2017 02:23 AM

My vote is yes.

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#2 posted 05-02-2017 04:20 AM

Yes.

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#3 posted 05-02-2017 04:37 AM

If I was in the market then yes.

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#4 posted 05-02-2017 01:24 PM

Yes-ish. The “set” would have to make sense functionally, aesthetically and economically.

So, four good workers. They all work, say very well, for a given purpose. Maybe, box making or cabinetry or chair making or general woodworking.

Of equal aesthetic appeal. Some folks like well-used old-looking, some prefer items that still have a bit of shine. Match the condition for all saws in the set.

Cheaper by the dozen, or four in this case. Of course, shipping should actually be cheaper, but offer a significant discount (20% – 25%) for the “set”. That should get ‘em to move faster and provide an obvious benefit to the buyer. Note that you are adding value not only with the tune-up, but with the matching. For those that don’t have time or inclination to become saw “experts”, that’s important value. So it might be counter-intuitive to offer a discount for such premium value, but I believe doing so will “expedite” your inventory liquidation. And might as well use your hard-earned expertise to create a tangible benefit.

I expect some people will want to buy individual saws from your stock, or select 4 saws to make their own set.

-- Jim Maher, Illinois

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#5 posted 05-02-2017 02:05 PM

Another yes (if I didn’t have a set all ready).

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#6 posted 05-02-2017 02:07 PM

^ ditto

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#7 posted 05-02-2017 04:37 PM

Maybe. I think most people will already have a couple of saws and won’t need a full set.

If they were a great value or a matching set, I might go for it. If not, there’s no reason not to just get the one or two saws that I need to fill out my tool set.

I will say that a basic kit of refurbished tools (panel saw, back saw, #4, block plane, chisels, and a square) that people who want to start woodworking or give as a gift might buy would be an even better idea.

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#8 posted 05-02-2017 05:35 PM

There is an American tool forum thread that is long lived you should visit. I’ll see if I can find it.

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#9 posted 05-02-2017 05:36 PM

Here you go…

http://lumberjocks.com/topics/144450

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#10 posted 05-02-2017 05:52 PM

Your chariot plane is a thing of beauty!

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#11 posted 05-02-2017 07:00 PM

I would be interested if the pricing was right. All i currently have are Japanese style saw and been wanting to get a few Western style saws. A somewhat matching set of vintage Disston saws would be great, I’d jump all over it.

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#12 posted 05-02-2017 07:32 PM

I agree with what Jim Maher has written. Also consider if you are tuning, offer resharpening as business to offer in the future (even if farmed out as long as turnaround isn’t too long).

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#13 posted 05-02-2017 11:37 PM

Thanks for the replies! Jim, yes, I would offer some sort of discount, but as you stated, the time that I put into them has to be reflected in the price. I would group them together as best as possible, but there’s also the fact that very few D8’s are found as crosscuts, if they are they will likely need at least sharpening and tuning, but if not I’d have to re-cut the teeth. I do have an Auto Re-Toother, but the price would have to reflect that as well. To keep it “economical”, I would likely do something like a No.7 Crosscut, a D8 Rip, then No.4’s for the backsaws(or possible the ones I make) or I would offer a “Premium” set with No. 12’s or 16’s. I say these because that’s what I have an abundance of. I guess I have enough Spear and Jackson saws to make sets as well, but everything else I would sell individually. Again, this is only an idea right now, more than anything I’m trying to cut down on having to list hundreds of saws individually.

Smitty, thanks for your input as well. And yes, I like my Chariot Planes too;) It has been a great seller for the last couple of weeks, so I’m about to start on the 3rd batch of them.

WayneC, thank you for the article, I’m always happy to see guys making and using quality tools. I have tons of respect for these folks and am honored to be a part of this “revolution”. Look for one of my saws and a plane or two in an upcoming issue of Furniture and Cabinet Making :)

-- Paul @ Space Age Plane Co.

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SpaceAgePlane

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#14 posted 05-02-2017 11:49 PM

Babieca, thanks for the reply. I agree that most folks will already have a saw or two and I will have plenty to appeal to them as well. If I had to guess, I’d say I would probably make 8-10 sets and see how it goes, the rest of the massive saw “collection” will be sold one by one. I will, however, be happy to offer a discount to folks out there, especially LJ’s who purchased more than one. I had two people place orders last week who I did this for, one guy bought 4 planes!!

Yodie, Be sure to check out my site. If there is anything in particular you’re looking for let me know. I’ve wanted to add stuff every night, but plane making has consumed my life!

Shipping is another concern that a few people have mentioned, i.e. combining shipping. I could do this to some extent, but anyone who’s ever shipped a 26”+ saw knows it can be spendy. I receive emails from guys daily who buy saws from me and can’t believe the time and energy that goes into it. I demand that the saw arrives to my customer just as it left my shop, regardless of the carrier’s best attempts to destroy them in transit. I build plywood frames with corrugated cardboard insides, then I tack them shut with square tacks. So building a box to fit 4 saws could be a bit expensive, I’m not sure of what FedEx will charge so I’ll look into that as well.

Thank you again for everyone’s input, you guys truly are a wealth of good ideas. Anyone who hasn’t weighed in, please do!

-- Paul @ Space Age Plane Co.

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#15 posted 05-03-2017 12:11 AM

Paul,

Right! What you said.

That’s exactly the reasoning – matching reasonable choices into a set – which I believe will appeal to the majority of woodworkers. Most just want a “good set of saws, if someone will just tell me what that IS”!

BTW, I wouldn’t re-cut teeth, but everything should probably be tuned and sharpened to offer the greatest appeal.

Let us know . . .

-- Jim Maher, Illinois

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