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andy_P

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05-01-2017 02:35 PM

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I’m about 95% into a final decision to upgrade my 2000 Delta to a SawStop machine (1.75 Cabinet) but wanted to run it by you guys in case any of you who might own one move any pointers or concerns. Were you able to use your existing jigs and accessories in the miter slots? I plan to put out about $3700 for the machine and don’t want any regrets if I can help it.

Thanks

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#1 posted 05-01-2017 02:53 PM

No regrets, I have it for about a year and love it,

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#2 posted 05-01-2017 03:05 PM

They are wonderful saws. A miter gauge etc will work the same in the Sawstop as it does in other saws. You may have to make a crosscut sled, because the blade-to-miter slot distance seems to vary from one saw to the next.

What kind of accessories are you getting to drive the price up that high? They are 1k less on Amazon.

You will love the new saw!

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#3 posted 05-01-2017 03:17 PM

Swapping out to a dado is expensive and time consuming, so much so that I’m thinking of repairing my old Jet saw (motor repair #3 if I go ahead) just to use as a dado machine. I’ll be rehabbing a house in another state and will eventually take that saw there, so it will be a temporary solution. Other than that, I’m happy with mine (contractor’s model).

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#4 posted 05-01-2017 03:27 PM

^^^ I’ve not had that experience. Takes maybe 60 seconds longer than a standard saw to swap a dado blade.
You have the cost of a dado cartridge, but unless something goes wrong, that should be a one-time expense.

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#5 posted 05-01-2017 03:54 PM

I went from a 2000 Unisaw to a SS (ICS). Nothing (literally) made for the Unisaw that rides in the miter slots will work on the SS without some changes. I had to reconfigure my tenoning jig, my Ibox, even my tapering jig…..none of that is a problem, BTW. They work fine once you re-adjust. It was a good move (IMHO) and the SS CS (the few times I contacted them) has been terrific. It’s not been a problem to go back and forth between the dado set and regular saw blades. Changing the cartridge is a 1 minute affair, and easy to do.

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#6 posted 05-01-2017 04:09 PM


Swapping out to a dado is expensive and time consuming, so much so that I m thinking of repairing my old Jet saw (motor repair #3 if I go ahead) just to use as a dado machine. I ll be rehabbing a house in another state and will eventually take that saw there, so it will be a temporary solution. Other than that, I m happy with mine (contractor s model).
- Marcial

The only extra operation required for changing to a dado blade is swapping the cartridge and maybe a turn or two of the gap adjustment screw. Once you get accustomed it is a 3 seconds job. Setting a dado blade in general is very time consuming process on any saw till you get the exact blade width so I am not sure what you are complaining about.
OP, the biggest by far limitation of the sawstop is that you are limited to certain blades. For example you are not supposed to use ( technically you can but sawstop does not guarantee that the stop mechanism would be able to stop it in time) a 1/4” thick blade or those expensive dado sets with full body chippers.
You cannot also use some other attachments such as sanding disks or shaper heads.
Another rather minor thing is that you have to wait a few seconds every time you turn on the saw till the software runs all the tests. It is only a few seconds but if you turn off the saw often for example to change the blade it can get mildly irritating.
And last but not least you must be extra careful with aluminum jigs such as Incra miter gauge. In fact Incra gauge is the most common ( and often the only) reason of the brake deployment among the SS owners I talked to.

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#7 posted 05-01-2017 05:27 PM

Thanks for all the comments

I am making my purchaser from a retail dealer that that I do a lot online business with. I live in ruralarea and will have to have it shipped. That is part of the total. I am ordering the cast iron table, the overhead dust collection, the then needed blade guard and a dado cartridge. With taxes, shipping it will come to about $3700+.

I am very interested in the comment about the IIcra. That is my go to guide when not using a sled

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#8 posted 05-01-2017 06:51 PM

I don’t have the saw but have noticed here that whenever people have had trouble SS’s customer service has been quick to help.

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#9 posted 05-01-2017 07:02 PM

I’ve heard the Saw Stop saws don’t finish their hot dogs….they just take a nibble and waste the rest!

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#10 posted 05-01-2017 07:38 PM

Your only mistake is you haven’t purchased it yet. Love mine!

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#11 posted 05-01-2017 08:04 PM

Had mine little over a year and love it, a fine piece of machinery, you just missed the promo they had going on, RJ

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#12 posted 05-01-2017 08:26 PM

Were you able to use your existing jigs and accessories in the miter slots? I plan to put out about $3700 for the machine and don’t want any regrets if I can help it.

Nothing that relied on the miter slot to blade alignment will work on a new saw… or even on an identical saw. Even just removing the table top for maintenance and then replacing it will throw them off. You can get close, but it’s almost impossible to get it back exactly in the same place.

And while I agree that the SS is a fine machine, for the price you are looking at, you could upgrade not just your Delta contractor saw to something like a Unisaw, but also upgrade your band saw and jointer as well. Just saying.

Cheers,
Brad

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andy_P

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#13 posted 05-01-2017 08:37 PM

Yeah, that alignment of the jigs and sleds is what really has me worried, but understand what you are saying. I may just have to accept the fact that they will need to be swapped out as needed.

-- Wood is a gift from God/Nature that maintains its beauty forever via the hand of a woodworker.

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#14 posted 05-01-2017 10:04 PM

That’s gr8 news for you Andy. Congrats on your purchase. That is a big chunk of greenbacks. But, if you’re comfortable with it, then that’s all that matters. I agree with Brad, but I was gonna say, you’d probably have to plan on making new sleds/jigs, etc. for your new beast. Hoping you are healing up quickly. You’ll be wanting to play with that new beast when you get it. Best of luck to you.

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#15 posted 05-01-2017 10:34 PM

I agree that the time to change from standard blade to dado set is minimal once you have done it a few times. As others have said, adjustment of sleds, etc. will surely be necessary. I use a large cross cut sled and had to re-do the runners. I’m not sure I get the thing about the Incra miter gauges. I have an Osborne (aluminum) and I tripped the safety mechanism by running it into the blade. The thing is, it was my error. After moving the miter gauge fence close to the blade to support a 45 degree cut, I returned the fence to 90 but forgot to move it back for proper clearance of the blade. At a cost of $100 for a blade and $70 for a new cartridge, that mistake won’t happen again. So I guess I’m saying Incra or otherwise, you have to make certain the gauge will clear the blade before turning on the saw.

-- On the eighth day God was back in His woodworking shop! Lenny, East Providence, RI

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