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Forum topic by ScaryDull posted 04-27-2017 11:03 PM 1635 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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ScaryDull

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04-27-2017 11:03 PM

Topic tags/keywords: router

I need a large pattern bit – and I’m looking at either the Big Daddy bit from William Ng or Whiteside’s Ultimate compression pattern bit.
The Big daddy is massive – but high speed steel from what I’ve heard – the whiteside bit is a compression (up cut and down cut) bit of solide carbide – but it’s (comparatively) smaller – cutter height 1 1/8” vs. 2”

Any thoughts or experiences?


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#1 posted 04-27-2017 11:05 PM

For cutters, I’d take good carbide over good steel any day.

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#2 posted 04-27-2017 11:17 PM

What are you cutting … material and thickness?
Are you planning to ride the bearing along the template mounted above or below the work piece?

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#3 posted 04-28-2017 12:08 AM

Big Daddy Pattern Bit!

Custom router bit made of cobalt, 1/2″ shaft, 1-1/8″ diameter, 2″ cutting length, 6 flute spiral, 3/8″ bearing, overall height is around 4-1/2″. We recommend using a router speed of 13,000 rpm with this bit. With 6 flutes, the cutters comes around very quickly. Remember to always use a blade guard. Smooth cuts every time, with or against the grain.

Combine this with our big daddy dust hood and guard.
Around 145.00
https://wnwoodworkingschool.com/shop/big-daddy-pattern-bit/

vs
http://www.carbideprocessors.com/whiteside/solid-carbide-spiral-router-bits/flush-trim-spiral-router-bits/
Around 165.00

That’s a tough call as I’ve never used a cobalt router bit and William Ng doesn’t sell lower end products.

I’d go with Whiteside as I’ve had great results with them:

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#4 posted 04-28-2017 01:10 AM

To my way of thinking Whiteside is the only game in town.

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#5 posted 04-28-2017 08:02 PM

I’m primarily going to use it on hardwoods – often not thicker than 1” – but I’m hoping I can use it for wider material also – so with the whiteside bit (the one with the bearing closest to the router) I hope you can take on thicker material with a second pass.

I think the larger Big Daddy (nice name) has it advantages in a wider diameter and ability to taker thicker material in one pass. Whereas the Whiteside is solide carbide and a compression bit.
I’ve had really good results with Whiteside so far, so I’m probably leaning that way.

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#6 posted 04-28-2017 08:40 PM

FYI, best pricing on Whiteside bits is on this site. I’ve ordered twice and my stuff showed up the next day.

https://woodworkersworld.net/whiteside-ultimate-up-down-spiral-plunge-pattern-router-bit-udp9112.html

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#7 posted 04-29-2017 08:20 PM

Thanks for the help.

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