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Forum topic by helluvawreck posted 11-07-2010 10:30 PM 1708 views 0 times favorited 35 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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helluvawreck

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11-07-2010 10:30 PM

Martin and all of you Lumberjocks, how do you become a donor to Lumberjocks???? because I want to sign up.

We’re 20,000 strong. United we stand, disunited we fall. There’s enough of us here to support this web site without advertisers. Also, 20,000 Lumberjocks buy a lot of stuff from advertisers. Advertisers don’t want to make us Lumberjocks mad so maybe they will climb aboard and support it even more when they find out we are united in an effort to help Martin make this the world’s greatest woodworking web site which it may be anyways.

I love this web site and I haven’t contributed one friggin penny to it. It makes me ashamed of myself, quite frankly. I’ve learned more about woodworking and woodworkers from this web site than from any woodworking magazine or book that I own because, for the most part, they lay on my bookshelves collecting dust. Not so with Lumberjocks. I’ve come here everyday since I joined and I have met a lot of nice people on this site. I want to meet a lot more of you. I’ve made some friends on here. What is a friend worth?

I challenge everyone of you. Let’s all become donors if we can afford it even if it’s in a small way.

I pay money to some web sites but I come here far more than I go to the others. I like this web site far more than the others that I pay for. It makes no logical sense to me anyways. I like the other wood working web sites that I go to but this is my anchor in the internet woodworking world.

There’s plenty of woodworking talent on here and the sky is the limit to what it could become with the internet technology that is available. I know there are some that can’t afford to contribute financially and that is fine. But some of you can afford it. It should always be a voluntary thing.

Maybe I’m out of line. I was just sitting on my patio thinking as I often do and this popped into my head and I rushed in here to post it.

How do you become a donor?

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau


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#1 posted 11-07-2010 10:32 PM

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#2 posted 11-07-2010 10:35 PM

Kind of weird…. I was thinking about the exact same thing this morning. I really do think everyone should give something, even if it’s just a few dollars. After you do make a donation, it makes you feel good about the site. It’s like you’ve invested in it. To me it’s like when we go to the polls. Any time I’m talking about politics with someone, the first thing I ask them is “did you vote in the last election?”. If the answer is no, the conversation ends there….. see what I’m trying to say.
- JJ

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helluvawreck

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#3 posted 11-07-2010 10:37 PM

Thanks, junior, my Paypal info is at the plant and I will contribute tomorrow. I promise. :)

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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helluvawreck

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#4 posted 11-07-2010 10:38 PM

BTW, I did vote, also. :)

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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juniorjock

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#5 posted 11-07-2010 10:40 PM

Good, but I don’t think now would be the time for a political discussion…. know what I mean? I’m past due to make another donation. I know times are rough on everyone but its not like you have to give a paycheck or something like that.

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helluvawreck

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#6 posted 11-07-2010 10:42 PM

I get your drift, junior, and what’s more I agree with ya’. :)

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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#7 posted 11-07-2010 10:56 PM

I thought about donating to this website once then I thought I will wait a little bit and see for certain how it is. I chose not to donate as I watched some good people get constantly ganged up on and brow beat by the same posters over and over. Every time someone did any little thing that they thought was wrong a new thread would be started to jump all over that person and Martin allows it the gang ups by the same people over and over again to continue. I will not donate any money other then what my clicks generate until that is stopped and stays stopped for awhile.

-- Ohh mann...pancakes and boobies...I'll bet that's what Heaven is like! ♣ ♣ ♣ ♣

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Beginningwoodworker

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#8 posted 11-07-2010 11:09 PM

I might donate something, but it depends on how the wind blows.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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#9 posted 11-07-2010 11:19 PM

Great suggestion Wreck. I just donated. All I needed was that little push. If we enjoy the site, why not support it, even in a small way.
FWW charges for an online membership and they have alot more advertising on their site IMHO.

-- Gary; Marysville, MI...Involve your children in your projects as much as possible, the return is priceless.

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ND2ELK

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#10 posted 11-07-2010 11:21 PM

I’ve donated for a long time. This IS Martin’s house and, if I’m going to “use” it, then I feel it is only right to support all the work it must take to maintain and develop this site. We are all, after all, just “guests” that he has been kind enough welcome in.

God Bless
tom

-- Mc Bridge Cabinets, Iowa

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mafe

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#11 posted 11-08-2010 02:11 AM

I have to ask:
Does Martin need cash for this? Is the comercials really not enough? He have so many hits.
If Martin needs the cash to keep it running, I will be willing to pay even I’m on a disable pension.
Best thoughts,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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Alexander

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#12 posted 11-08-2010 02:18 AM

Mad F,

The money may not be an issue but the show of support is.

-- John at Sugarloft Mountain........Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.

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mafe

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#13 posted 11-08-2010 03:03 AM

Yes this I can relate to also, but still I would like to know if the money are needed also.
I am willing to stop my wood working subcription and give the money to LJ if needed.
Best thoughts,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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Dan Lyke

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#14 posted 11-08-2010 03:10 AM

mafe, I’ve been blissfully ignorant of some of the recent defacement of the site, but it sounds like LumberJocks is getting to the point where it really needs a couple of full-time people to be watching it closely. So the question isn’t necessarily “are the ads enough?”, it’s more that Martin and MsDebbie and the other hardcore contributors have shown us what they can do with the resources they have (and I’ve been on the site since before ads), so if we give them more resources, do you think they can make the site better?

I’ve been an active member of a number of woodworking sites. Even been to some get-togethers that came out of other sites. This is the one that’s kept my interest for several years now. It’s having some growing pains, but that’s a pretty impressive accomplishment.

And I’m not against advertisers. I actually enjoy learning about new products that are actively targeted to problems I need to solve. But I also think it’s worth remembering that in an advertiser supported publication you are not the customer, you are the product. And I think part of the lameness of most woodworking publications is that many of them are pandering to their advertisers more than their readers.

-- Dan Lyke, Petaluma California, http://www.flutterby.net/User:DanLyke

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helluvawreck

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#15 posted 11-08-2010 03:26 AM

First of all, please don’t misunderstand. I’m not suggesting that Martin get rid of the advertisers. Actually, anything but. The advertising is great – it brings in money. It’s just that how many times have I heard from people in the last few days “Martin’s advertisers are going to pull out.”

Mads, I didn’t mean to upset you or worry you. So please don’t worry over it.

Frankly, I’m sorry that I have posted this. I think that what I have said is pretty self explanatory. I thought that it was a good common sense idea. I thought that there would be more responses. Frankly, I’m totally surprised and disappointed at the lack of responses.

Why don’t we just forget that I posted this and go on back to our business?

Everything is fine. Now let’s just forget this.

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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