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04-27-2017 07:52 PM

Topic tags/keywords: dust collector oneida dust deputy delta

So I’m in the middle of building a compact / hybrid 2-stage dust collector using my Delta 50-850 and an Oneida Super Dust Deputy. I’m on the hunt for suitable 6” flex to make the connection from the impeller inlet to the SDD, but I can’t justify spending $50 for 10’ of hose when all I need is 12” or so. I don’t want to hack up the 6” flex that runs interconnects the impeller output to the DC ring… unless I have to. Does anyone have a good source for that sort of material?

Thanks! Marshall

ps, mating dust collector fittings, specifically the lack of standard ID and OD, is driving me absolutely nuts.


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#1 posted 04-27-2017 08:26 PM

Check Oneida and other cyclone manufacturers for short sections to go between a Gorilla and the can. Otherwise, one of the suppliers might sell it by the foot. My last section was long, so can’t help more than that.

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#2 posted 04-27-2017 09:02 PM

I’m assuming that you are orienting the impeller housing above the SDD. I connected my by using a fitting called a takeoff (its a flanged nozzle). The flange portion was caulked and screwed to the impeller housing and the duct portion slipped into the SDD outlet. The 6” takeoff was about $6.

Below the SDD theres a 16” drop into the dust bin, there I used two “Takoffs” and a short spool piece. I agree with you I didn’t want to pay out that much for a piece of flex.

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#3 posted 04-28-2017 01:23 PM

Ah ha! Very cool, hadn’t thought about HVAC fittings. I’ll try the local big box store and see what I can find. Thanks!

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#4 posted 04-28-2017 01:54 PM

I used a 6” PVC drain coupling and it fit perfectly. I did buy a section of 6” hose to go from the bottom of the SDD down to my bin. This gave me the ability to easily take the top off the bin and empty it. I can post pics if it would help.

Keep in mind for all your connections that you can take a PVC coupling and dip it in boiling water for about 20 or 30 seconds and EASILY expand or contract it slightly to make a perfect fit. Its cheap, easy and clean.

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#5 posted 04-28-2017 02:52 PM

Pmh I’m on exactly the same mission. My SDD will be delivered today. I’m heading to WoodyAZs place tomorrow to help him with things and I’m hoping he has a piece hanging around somewhere. If not Woodcraft has 25% off dust collection goodies this month and I plan to swing by there to grab this:

https://www.woodcraft.com/products/flexaust-6-x-5-feet-clear-dust-collection-hose

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#6 posted 04-28-2017 03:15 PM



Pmh I m on exactly the same mission. My SDD will be delivered today. I m heading to WoodyAZs place tomorrow to help him with things and I m hoping he has a piece hanging around somewhere. If not Woodcraft has 25% off dust collection goodies this month and I plan to swing by there to grab this:

https://www.woodcraft.com/products/flexaust-6-x-5-feet-clear-dust-collection-hose

- ki7hy

That’s exactly the hose I used for the bottom of my SSD, great quality hose for a great price right now.

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#7 posted 04-28-2017 03:29 PM

For those having problems sealing cans, don’t forget household door foam, self stick gaskets (clean the plastic with alcohol before applying).

That and my truck hood hold downs works well. I keep incense around and light a bar up for a smoke test and the smoke just keeps climbing all the way around the lid.

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#8 posted 04-28-2017 03:38 PM

Thanks for the tips. My drum is sealed so I’ll have to cut the top and make a lid. I planned to use either door foam or a bike inner tube I have boxed laying around.

I definitely want to go with a hose from the bottom of the SDD to the lid so it’s easier to empty.

I think I’m just going to run 4” schedule 40 pvc around the shop. Can it be stretched enough to fit over the black regular dust hose fittings with the boiling method? Sorry for high jacking PMH.

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#9 posted 04-28-2017 04:05 PM

I ran 4” PVC everywhere and it worked great, however i used the 4” Drain PVC because its lighter, less expensive and MUCH easier to work with than Schedule 40. Using either the actual pipe, or a coupling pretty much all of my black fittings work perfectly without having to change their size. However if you need to use the boiling method it really easy to do. Also the flex hose will fit directly onto the 4” PVC drain pipe.

I also used a

“4 in. PVC DWV Soil Pipe Adapter” from home Depot
http://www.homedepot.com/p/4-in-PVC-DWV-Soil-Pipe-Adapter-C4800HD4/100345540

This fit the SDD input fitting exactly and adapted to the 4” PVC that I used in the shop. You can actually see it in the pictures I posted.

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#10 posted 04-28-2017 04:15 PM

I’ll have to look to see if my Home Depot has the drain stuff I don’t remember seeing it there. I need to head over there to get a dryer vent for venting outside anyway. I have a bunch of black dust collection fittings. Probably everything I need already so hopefully I can find something to mate to them to keep costs down. So I can just do hard lines. I know 4” isn’t ideal according to all the Thein peeps but it’ll be cheaper and easier. Venting outside should help too. I have 4” flex hose running everywhere now as is. Will be glad when that’s gone.

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#11 posted 04-28-2017 04:19 PM

I added a small Plexiglass window to the lid so I could see the level and know when to empty it.

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#12 posted 04-28-2017 04:31 PM

I lift the entire SSD head and plate off by lifting it up, without removing any hose. This makes life easier, since, as shop fate would have it, the jointer bed is inches away and the lid rests there, balanced by the still connected top hose. I have considered a pulley (currently resting on top the SDD lid, waiting installation on the ceiling. I already put one pulley up for the output hose swaps and it made a HUGE difference.

NOTE: I found it just as easy to swap the four hoses around as to open and close blast gates, which further reduced air flow (noted a big improvement without any equipment). The pulley is for swaps between the double hose connection for the upper and lower portions of the table saw and the sanding station. The other two hoses are for the lathes and the planer. Last and by itself is the planer hose, which also does floor vacuum duty.


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#13 posted 04-28-2017 04:54 PM


NOTE: I found it just as easy to swap the four hoses around as to open and close blast gates, which further reduced air flow (noted a big improvement without any equipment).
- Kelly

I built my own blast gates because the ones I purchased worked so poorly. I also noticed a huge improvement once I got rid of them. I actually had to build them with a lock to hold them open because they worked so well the System would actually pull them shut.

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#14 posted 04-28-2017 04:57 PM

I was going to add a small pulley as well Kelly and just tie a rope to hold it up. I still think I’ll use a flex hose between the lid and SDD.

I guess I’ll just take a dust collection fitting to Home Depot and start jamming it in pipe and see what I come up with. I could use tape to friction fit if it’s a hair loose. Would love to do this mostly with what I have. Pipe is cheap enough, connectors add up quick. I would still need to buy connectors for long sweeps for 90 degree turns.

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#15 posted 04-28-2017 05:28 PM

I started using big box store clear lawn bags to line my collector drum. With the cage pressing the bags against the side view port, I have no problem seeing how full the can is.

My only regret is having not made the view port extend higher up. With the recent score of several hundred pounds of Plexi and such, that won’t be a problem (when I get one of those round Tuits).


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