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932 days ago |
see new pics in replies below for an update on this project!!
Today i aquired a new project and i need some input from eveyone! The owner of this antique wash stand asked if i could fix the top and refinish the top to match the rest of the stand. of course i said yes the top is cracked in 2 places and was filled with some putty which i have already dugout. So How would you go about fixing this? i think my first would be steam the top and clamp it down flat for a while. after that…. i think i have a plan but i would like to hear some advice from experience! thanks for any help!!! -- Justin, Savannah,Ga |
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#1 posted 932 days ago |
I think you are on the right track with the steaming. After it is pulled back flat(?) I think I would cut a relief in the middle. It’s hard to tell what the top wood was from the pictures but I would bet it was made from something like elm that has a tendency to twist. If you don’t relieve the stresses in it, it will do the same thing again. Just MHO. -- Don't rollerskate in a buffalo herd |
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#2 posted 932 days ago |
Remove the handles and drive a new cabinet under it. J/K, I’m not sure what you could do to fix that, other than cutting blind dados along the bottom of the top, like you would do if you were making a curved panel, but in reverse. That’s a ton of twist to remove. |
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#3 posted 932 days ago |
That is a real bad roll top! Steam it and add some weight. Something needs to be done so that it doesn’t roll up again in the future, and I am not sure one relief cut will be enough. The other thought is to scrap the current top and make a new one, but there goes the value of the antique. After you have it flat, why not cut out the center of the top and insert some mdf or other type of wood that will stiffen the outer frame and prevent it from twisting again. That way you will have the appearance of original and the rigidity of new. -- Brian, Lebanon PA, If you aren’t having fun doing it, find something else to do. |
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#4 posted 932 days ago |
Use the top as a pattern and cut a new section. I know it sounds like cheating but you will have a satisfied customer and probably a better more stable piece. p.s. there is a difference between “antique” and “old”. -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner |
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#5 posted 932 days ago |
my thought was to steam it and clamp it flat… as possible -- Justin, Savannah,Ga |
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#6 posted 932 days ago |
I did a small one with steam and the glue let go and it did not remove the curls, I had to make another top. |
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#7 posted 932 days ago |
Funny that only the top is damaged, may have had water dripping on the top. |
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#8 posted 932 days ago |
Justin, Obviously there is a lot of stress in that top and not sure the best way to tell you to cure the problem, but first I would remove the top and look at it very closely to see how it was glued up originally. How many boards? was the growth rings staggered? was any of the boards over 5” wide?..........just a few thing to look at. Do you have enough overhang on the front and/or back to allow to cut the top apart (and lose the saw kerfs) and still be wide enough to glue it back together. If you cut it apart, could you get away with staggering the boards or is the bottom of the top such that you couldn’t do that (screw holes, not planed, etc). If you can’t work with the original top, then Bob#2 probably has the best solution…...Make a new top. Personally, I would probably just go with a new top and solve the problem. Good luck and let us know how you make out. -- John @ http://www.thehuffordfurnituregroup.com |
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#9 posted 932 days ago |
My initial thoughts were that he wanted to use the original top, however after looking at the pictures and thinking about it, I agree with the others, make a new top. That way it probably won’t “come back to haunt you” from the owner. He shouldn’t object as obviously it’s junk at the moment. P.S. that is one ugly paint job <g> -- Don't rollerskate in a buffalo herd |
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#10 posted 932 days ago |
If I were asked to do this: -- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !" |
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#11 posted 932 days ago |
1st Clue, -- Doug... |
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#12 posted 932 days ago |
If you (or the customer) are dead set on saving the top, your plan sounds as good as any to me. Personally, I’d write it off as a lost cause and make a new one. -- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood" |
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#13 posted 932 days ago |
I would glue up a new substrate probably poplar and veneer it on top and seal the bottom. That edge profile should be pretty easy to duplicate. Good luck with it. |
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#14 posted 932 days ago |
Looking at the top, it shows a lot of stains, so you should take that into account before you spend a lot of time trying to bring it back flat. If your customer likes the stains and just wants the original top back flat, then I would proceed. Personally if I were trying to flatten it, I would turn it upside down and then take a damp / wet bath towel and lay it on the bottom side for a couple of hours. Once it was soaked, set the piece out in the sun and check on it about every hour until its almost flat, then bring it back inside and used some 2×4’s on edge and some clamps to bring it back flat and let it sit for a few days until its completely dried, then glue where necessary and the seal the back side. Then reattached the top. I’ve used the wet towel and sun method a few times with good success. Best of luck which ever direction you try. -- James |
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#15 posted 932 days ago |
Justin, don´t want to spoil it for you but this amount of cupping clearly shows severely stressed wood that has been working itself to this shape for decades. Even if you steam it agressively and place it in a press it will cup again in a very short time. If the owner still wants to keep the original top you could rip it into narrow 1” strips, joint them, and reassemble, maybe you will have to add a couple new strips to compensate for the lost width. I think this would be a good way to break the overall stress and maintain the original top as wholesome as reasonably possible. |
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