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tcarswell

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04-23-2017 07:06 PM

Title says it all. If I go with the LN I’d go with the bronze. Any thoughts from you guys are appreciated

-- Nothing worth doing is easy ! (or simple) It's time to move past cultural Marxism. 120 million bodies is more than enough to learn that lesson .


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Rich

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#1 posted 04-23-2017 07:32 PM

I went with the LN 4 1/2. The reason is that the frogs and blades are interchangeable among LN 4 1/2, 5 1/2, 6 and 7 planes. Down the road, I can get a 5 1/2 and 7 in 50º and 55º frog angles and have a very versatile package of planes.

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#2 posted 04-23-2017 08:15 PM

That’s an interesting thought. Does the veritas 4 1/2 custom have that option?

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#3 posted 04-23-2017 08:21 PM

I love my LN 4-1/2. I do not own very many planes but use this for lots of things including as a shooting plane.

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#4 posted 04-23-2017 09:00 PM



That s an interesting thought. Does the veritas 4 1/2 custom have that option?

- tcarswell

I don’t know about that. I’m sure it’ll say on their web site.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#5 posted 04-23-2017 09:04 PM

I’m surprised. Seems like maybe the 4 1/2 might be a better option ?

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#6 posted 04-24-2017 05:45 AM

I went with a Veritas #4 L.A. smoother and a #4 Custom with 55 deg. frog, both with the PMV-11.
Already have 3, 4, 5, 5 1/4 and 6 Stanley’s all with PMV-11 blades. Think I will get the Veritas L.A. Jack someday.

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tcarswell

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#7 posted 04-24-2017 07:48 AM

I love my low angle jack and my low angle smoother . Big big fan of the pmv11

-- Nothing worth doing is easy ! (or simple) It's time to move past cultural Marxism. 120 million bodies is more than enough to learn that lesson .

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#8 posted 04-24-2017 01:59 PM



I went with the LN 4 1/2. The reason is that the frogs and blades are interchangeable among LN 4 1/2, 5 1/2, 6 and 7 planes. Down the road, I can get a 5 1/2 and 7 in 50º and 55º frog angles and have a very versatile package of planes.

- RichTaylor

I did the same thing. I have a LN number 4-1/2 and a number 7, one with the 45 degree frog and one with a 55 degree frog. Pretty hard to go wrong with that set-up.

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#9 posted 04-24-2017 02:18 PM

LN 4 1/2 ^^

Veritas custom no. 4 ^^

I’d go with the Lie Nielsen

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#10 posted 04-24-2017 02:21 PM

Yes, there is the whole aesthetics thing. I have the Bronze LN-4. Planning to get one of the high angle frogs for it. My other Bench planes are Bedrocks. They could also be a consideration.

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#11 posted 04-24-2017 05:16 PM

I have both the Custom #4 and a LN bronze #3. Both are excellent users and capable of smoothing the most interlocked grain. However, to do so, you need to be proficient in setting the chipbreaker around 0.3 – 0.4mm from the edge of the blade.

The LN started life with a 55 degree frog. I hated it. Hard to push and did not provide the ultimate performance I sought. I swapped out the frog for a 45 degree. The lower the frog, the lower the cutting angle, and the smoother the finish …. as long as you set the chipbreaker. The Custom #4 has a 42 degree frog. So it is a slightly better performer than the LN.

Setting the chipbreaker is easier with the custom planes than Bailey planes as the screws are the right way up (bettr visibility).

My review of the Custom planes is a useful read to understand what to purchase, and why.

http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReviews/VeritasCustomPlanes1.html

Regards from Perth

Derek

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tcarswell

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#12 posted 05-02-2017 08:55 PM

I read your reviews thank you for that ! I ended up going with a 4 1/2 custom with a wide tote and standard medium handle and a pvm 11 blade. And I got a large shoulder plane while I was at it :)

-- Nothing worth doing is easy ! (or simple) It's time to move past cultural Marxism. 120 million bodies is more than enough to learn that lesson .

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#13 posted 05-03-2017 01:40 AM

Congrats on your new planes, they look great.

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#14 posted 05-03-2017 03:22 AM



LN 4 1/2 ^^

Veritas custom no. 4 ^^

I d go with the Lie Nielsen

- waho6o9


Why is the LN a better choice? I would think performance is the top consideration, not the appearance.

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#15 posted 05-03-2017 04:40 AM

Mine works fine. Seems most are happy with the performance along with a traditional look.

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