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LumberingWoodworker

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04-13-2017 02:01 PM

Topic tags/keywords: wildlife wildlife sevices sawdust lumber woodworker dog

Lumberjocks friend’s and visitors, I’m taking a short break from making sawdust to bring up andother issue that affected a family member and his pet dog.

Many of you may have heard in recent news about the boy and dog sprayed by a M-44 cyanide device set by wildlife services in Idaho on public land 300-yards away from their house. Sadly, his pet golden retriever Casey was killed by it and the boy was injured but miraculously lived. There were no signs or warnings given that these deadly devices were planted near their home in Idaho.

The reason I am posting this OFF-TOPIC subject is the family is seeking federal action to ban the use of these devices. If you live in America please sign and share at the following link. Their deadline for this petition is April 27th. However, they tell me they will never give up.

Your help is greatly appreciated. God bless.

Canyon’s Law: ban Wildlife Services from using M-44 cyanide devices, cyanide and compound 1080 for predator control:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/canyons-law-ban-wildlife-services-using-m-44-cyanide-devices-cyanide-and-compound-1080-predator-control

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bigblockyeti

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#1 posted 04-13-2017 02:41 PM

I agree with this completely, these kill indiscriminately often times resulting in the death of a non target animal. In every hunter safety course it is thoroughly taught to be sure of your target, not only for the sake of safety but to avoid penalty for taking something an animal out of season or protected all together. The use of cyanide bombs takes these rules and completely throws them out the window posing a very real threat to non target animals and humans a like.

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papadan

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#2 posted 04-13-2017 04:23 PM

I’m in.

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ArtMann

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#3 posted 04-14-2017 01:50 AM

Questions:

1. What was the target species? What is the risk of ignoring it?

2. What other alternatives are there that are safer but still still effective and practical?

3. What is the real risk of continuing to use this method? Accidents do happen regardless of the situation. No human effort of any significance is ever 100% safe. Automobiles kill tens of thousands of dogs and maybe a thousand children every year. Should we ban automobiles for the same reason? Some risky things are better tolerated than banned.

I want to understand what bad things might happen as a result of banning this method of wild animal extermination before I advocate changing it. Rat poison is dangerous and probably kills thousands of domestic animals each year and perhaps a few kids too. However, half the population of Europe died in the 14th century due to the black (Bubonic) plague. A generous distribution of the same rat poison would have prevented the death of a hundred million people, had it been available.

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LumberingWoodworker

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#4 posted 04-19-2017 04:54 PM

There is still time to let your voice be heard. Please sign and share so they don’t sweep another one under the table.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/canyons-law-ban-wildlife-services-using-m-44-cyanide-devices-cyanide-and-compound-1080-predator-control

Here is one of the many news articles, if you have any questions about the illegal use of the M-44. Plus, this is not the first incident of this type. Many pets have been killed by these devices from Oregon to Virginia.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/21/usda-must-rethink-cyanide-bombs-that-injured-boy-killed-pets-lawmaker-says.html

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Rick_M

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#5 posted 04-20-2017 05:21 AM

Maybe the USDA is the wrong agency to oversee pest control if they think cyanide landmines are a good idea. Maybe the government should stay out of the pest business altogether. Maybe they should turn it over to the military, target practice.


Questions:
- ArtMann

1. coyote
1a. more coyotes, maybe, or maybe not

2. People have been trapping, hunting, and poisoning coyotes for 150 years and the coyotes seem to be winning.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/08/coyote-america-dan-flores-history-science/

3. What is the risk of cyanide landmines? Killing pets and small children.

We have coyotes here in the suburbs. They don’t howl, you rarely see them except early in the morning or late at night and then only from a distance. They are wily. They eat whatever coyotes eat, which is apparently a bit of everything. They seem to keep the stray dog and cat population to a bare minimum. People are terrified of them for no apparent reason. We also have deer and birds of prey.

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madts

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#6 posted 04-20-2017 01:02 PM

Live and let live.

—Madts.

-- Thor and Odin are still the greatest of Gods.

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LumberingWoodworker

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#7 posted 04-21-2017 02:59 PM

National Geographic published a comprehensive version of this family’s story yesterday, April 20th. I truly hope it inspires action to eliminate the use of this deadly poison.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/04/wildlife-watch-wildlife-services-cyanide-idaho-predator-control/

-- http://www.TravelingCraftsman.etsy.com/

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