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Forum topic by crb posted 04-13-2017 07:56 AM 635 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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04-13-2017 07:56 AM

Topic tags/keywords: planer question milling

I am trying to get into the woodworking hobby on the “cheap” and I’ve been reading this forum for a few months. Awesome resource!

I’ve been slowly assembling parts of my garage shop from used tools on Craigslist. I don’t like poorly made tools but I can’t outright justify the good stuff new when I’m just getting started. My next purchase is a planer. In the new market I’ve seen lots of good reviews for the Dewalt 735 (x). I don’t like the new price (cost more than all my other tools except my table saw). I can get a new one online for $650 – 10% and free shipping, no tax. I also don’t like that the blades are $50 a set and HSS not resharpenable due to thickness. I don’t really want to go with the carbide blades right now as I plan on doing some reclaiming and I’d feel pretty bad hitting a nail with a $150 blade. The helical option is another $400 :( And apparently the thing is super loud. It is however compelling because it is small and I could “shelve” it when not in use.

So as I am worrying about the cost of a new, loud planer (I do this stuff at night with wife and kid in bed) I come across a Boice Crane model 1000 vintage unit in working order. It has a wood base, wood dust collector port, and no belt guard but it does run, planes great, and isn’t going to wake the neighbors at 10pm. Price on it is $150. It has plenty of oil on it and some rust (50 years of operation will do that). What is the consensus on vintage units? Will I even be able to replace bearings on something I can’t find a manual for? I don’t like that I can’t get parts for it, but at $150 that’s cheaper than the DeWalt carbide blades. You can even get a helical head for it for $1000. I consider myself handy, but should I pass on this and wait or go ahead and go for it? Anyone have experience with this machine or keeping the vintage stuff running? Its build like a tank…Seems like I could sell it for the same price if something better came along. Or does anyone have other suggestions for a good planer? Of course if I got it I’d be tempted to restore it…just another project I don’t have time for. :)

Here’s a couple links to pics:
Slightly better than this condition
They look nice restored

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#1 posted 04-13-2017 11:24 AM

I did find the manuals which make me feel a little better about the vintage unit.

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#2 posted 04-13-2017 11:47 AM

I like old machines for the most part. The real nitty gritty of how most WW tools operate is the same now as it was 70+ years ago. But, with a planer, it’s not quite as simple. The moving bed and rollers add to the complexity. Another problem I would have with it is that with the bed moving instead of the cutter head, you can’t add infeed/outfeed support easily since the height constantly changes. That planer doesn’t have a very long bed so that could be a problem if you work alone frequently. Just my $.02!

As far as recommendations, the DW735 is pretty much the de facto choice for the serious hobbyist around here. Like you though, I didn’t care for the price when I bought a planer so I opted for the Delta 22-555 instead. I’ve had it for a couple of years and it’s been great. Also has the disposable blades but, they last a long time for me and they’re a cinch to switch out. I can definitely recommend it as a budget-friendly alternative to the DeWalt but, as I said, most people swear by their 735.

Welcome to the site!

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#3 posted 04-13-2017 12:03 PM

Yes, I’ll swear by my DW735, I sold a Ridgid lunchbox TP1300 when I found my deal on the DW735. Awesome improvement with the longer bed 3rd knife, and especially the 2 speed finishing. I get pretty good mileage for the blades & remember although disposable they’re also double sided, self indexing and really easy & simple to change or adjust left right for small nicks. I work with rough cut from a local sawmill and don’t really do much reclaiming of wood unless its recovered from large equipment crates when I’m updating kitchens, & I only will take pieces that are not in ground contact where sand gravel etc can get embedded. If you’r doing much of it I’ve seen a few youtubers who use a belt sander first on the woods to remove any embedded garbage before risking the planer blade. Oh, unless you’re a power lifter it’s not really “Shelve-able” at about 100# I built a low roller cart for mine and store it rolled under a bench until I need it. Noise??? Yes, it’s loud, but then I can’t really say ive ever heard a quiet planer, as while the motors can make a difference the blade hitting the wood makes quite a noise too.

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#4 posted 04-13-2017 12:08 PM

A larger machine with an induction motor will run significantly quieter until the blades hit the wood, then they’re all loud (helical heads less so). I have a detached shop and I’m running a DeWalt planer and I won’t run it after 10:30 at night, when I get a larger machine, that won’t change. If cheap is your primary concern, your best bet is to set up an alert on CL so when a screaming deal comes along you can jump on it ASAP, happy hunting!

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#5 posted 04-13-2017 02:33 PM

I’ll throw it out there that a lot of folks on this site also have the DW734. At $200 less, it’s only considered a modest step down from the 735, and folks seem very happy with it (I certainly am).

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#6 posted 04-13-2017 03:13 PM

That’s a bargain on the BC.

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#7 posted 04-13-2017 03:15 PM

Thanks for the feedback. I was leaning toward the vintage unit but now back toward the Dewalt. I really don’t want a machine restoration hobby too! Sounds like getting a belt sander may be a good investment for keeping the blades in good shape for anything that may have hit the ground.

Low and behold a Woodmastaer 718 came up on craigslist today with the sander and new knives and rollers. Asking as much as the DeWalt new. I am hesitant to get a multipurpose machine and it seems like some people have had problems adjusting them. It isn’t in “new” condition but its in much better shape than the Boice Crane 1000. Any thoughts on that unit?

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#8 posted 04-13-2017 03:25 PM

I don’t know anything about the Woodmaster but a little quick research tells me that’s about 20% of new price. The 18” would be nice too. Not sure about the adjustment though…

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#9 posted 04-13-2017 03:31 PM

Woodmasters are good, solid machines.

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#10 posted 04-15-2017 07:36 PM

Well, I missed the Woodmaster, called right after I posted and it was already gone. Someone is selling an older Grizzly g1037 planer/moulder and a dozen sets of moulder knives for about the price of the dewalt 735x new. I plan on going that route and will probably sell the knives I don’t have a use for. It should be quieter than the dewalt, I won’t have spare parts anxiety, and who knows I have some baseboard to replace in the house maybe it will save me a trip to the mill. People seem to like the machine for non-production applications.

-- Tighten it until it breaks, then back off a quarter turn!

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#11 posted 04-15-2017 09:15 PM

I didn’t read all the replies, but…

I have a DeWalt 734 I purchased at the big blue box store several years ago. I have lost count. I am on the second set of blades. The are double sided, so you can flip them around and use the same set until dull, then replace them.

I have never had any problems with this planer.

Current price is $399. Heck I think that is what I paid unless it was on sale.

Good luck in your search.

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