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Forum topic by BillyDoubleU posted 04-12-2017 12:16 AM 659 views 0 times favorited 26 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BillyDoubleU

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04-12-2017 12:16 AM

Hello all!

I am in the process of buying all kinds of tools and starting up my million dollar business venture out of my garage so I can quit my day job….

Well that’s the idea anyway.

So at this point I have been reading all kinds of reviews on here and other wood working sites and have come home with the following:

DeWalt DWE7491RS Table Saw
DeWalt DWS780 SCMS

Have on order:
Porter Cable PCB420SA Disc/Belt sander
DeWalt DW735X Planer
Grizzly G0555LX 14” Deluxe Bandsaw

Already had:
Ryobi 10” Miter Saw
Makita Heavy as hell Worm Drive saw (throw back from my framing days)
Makita Jig Saw
Porter Cable Orbital Sander
HDX Compressor
Ridgid 18ga Brad nailer (Love this thing)

So as I sell off a bunch of non wood working stuff to fund this endeavor I am sitting on another $300-$400 and am looking at my next purchase.

With that being said I think I need a router before much else. After reading up on them more in depth I have come to the conclusion that I want a Bosch MRC23EVSK.

So now to my actual question.

Do you guys (and gals) leave a router in the table and have a second one ready for freehand use, plunging etc?

I’ve read that you should have 1 router for every bit in your collection… But lets not get too crazy just to start.

I am thinking of getting the MRC23EVSK and then picking up a second 23EVSK variation to have one fixed to the table and one for freehand use etc.

Then a Dewalt one and a buddy on another website tells me Porter Cable wrote the book on routers so I guess one of those… and then all of them!

Anyways, this will end up in something of a modified Paulk bench as far as I am thinking right now.

I figure after the router I will be looking at either a Lathe, Jointer or a Drum Sander but off all of those I think the Lathe would be next up as funds allow.

Background:
2 years of wood shop in high school
5 years Navy building bombs and taking naps
3 years of general rough carpentry/framing

Thank you for the time!

-- "But I’ve bought a big bat. I’m all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!” ~ Dr. Seuss


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ArtMann

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#1 posted 04-12-2017 12:50 AM

All I can say is that I have 5 or 6 routers but mostly only use 3. I have a 3.5 HP Hitachi router for my table. I have a 2.25 HP Dewalt for hand routing and I have a Porter Cable 2.25 HP for my CNC router. These last two routers came with both a fixed and a plunge base. I also have a Freud 2.25 HP plunge router that is so sorry I haven’t taken it out of the cabinet in years. I have an ancient Craftsman 1.5 HP fixed base router that I do flush trimming of laminate with every once in a while. It isn’t even practical to think about swapping these around. I would wind up spending more time removing and installing routers than cutting with them.

I have to say that I have never owned a Bosch router but I have used one several times. I like them. In fact, I like a lot of Bosch tools.

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ArtMann

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#2 posted 04-12-2017 12:51 AM

Double post.

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Monte Pittman

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#3 posted 04-12-2017 12:57 AM

Welcome to Lumberjocks.

Can’t have too many routers. I have 7 and would like a couple more.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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BillyDoubleU

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#4 posted 04-12-2017 01:06 AM



All I can say is that I have 5 or 6 routers but mostly only use 3. I have a 3.5 HP Hitachi router for my table. I have a 2.25 HP Dewalt for hand routing and I have a Porter Cable 2.25 HP for my CNC router. These last two routers came with both a fixed and a plunge base. I also have a Freud 2.25 HP plunge router that is so sorry I haven t taken it out of the cabinet in years. I have an ancient Craftsman 1.5 HP fixed base router that I do flush trimming of laminate with every once in a while. It isn t even practical to think about swapping these around. I would wind up spending more time removing and installing routers than cutting with them.

I have to say that I have never owned a Bosch router but I have used one several times. I like them. In fact, I like a lot of Bosch tools.

- ArtMann

That’s kind of what I’m thinking.

-- "But I’ve bought a big bat. I’m all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!” ~ Dr. Seuss

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BillyDoubleU

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#5 posted 04-12-2017 01:07 AM



Welcome to Lumberjocks.

Can t have too many routers. I have 7 and would like a couple more.

- Monte Pittman

Thanks!

The trend in noticing is that routers seem to be a tool that reproduces :)

-- "But I’ve bought a big bat. I’m all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!” ~ Dr. Seuss

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Andybb

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#6 posted 04-12-2017 02:26 AM

IMHO the answer to your question is yes. One in the table and one for hand use. Put one heavy duty router with a lift in a table or ts extension and leave it there. Grab one off of Craigslist. Brand doesn’t matter as you’ll never see it. I keep a round-over bit in a cheap Harbor Freight palm router and use a Dewalt trim router for everything else.

-- Andybb - GO HAWKS!

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JayCee123

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#7 posted 04-12-2017 11:08 AM

Thanks for serving, bud.
I’d invest in some dust collection equipment next.
One router dedicated to a table the next router for freehand work. My experience: 3 1/2hp PC router for table (with dust enclosure and collection). I have several PC, Dewalt, and Craftsman routers in my shop drawers, I don’t use them anymore. I’ve purchased two Festool routers (with good dust collection features), these two I now use. I’m not saying that other router manufacturers don’t make routers with good dust collection now ... I’m just saying that at the time I was making initial purchases, over 40 yrs ago, they didn’t have the collection features I now find necessary. All the tools you mentioned will produce chips and dust but I always had a hard time dealing with dust from my routers.
I might have a different situation then you. I have a basement shop and share some of the real estate with the “little lady,” so I need to consider her comfort, our health; plus if I started tracking saw dust upstairs a couple times a day I’d need to start renting shop space somewhere else.

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BillyDoubleU

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#8 posted 04-12-2017 12:01 PM



I ve purchased two Festool routers (with good dust collection features), these two I now use.

- JayCee123

Just getting into this game and learning about the brands, Festool maybe one of those tool that will always be priced above what I can justify.

Would love to pick up some of there tools though.

The Festool that looks to match up with the Bosch is their Imperial model and cost almost 5 times as much!

My neighbor has about 15 years in the woodworking and I believe he has a few Festool items and he was very happy with the dust management.

Dust management is something I’ve not put much thought into as of yet. I have a shop vac but literally haven’t even started looking.

I typically just grab the blower and blow it out the garage whenever it accumulates.

-- "But I’ve bought a big bat. I’m all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!” ~ Dr. Seuss

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a1Jim

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#9 posted 04-12-2017 01:05 PM

If you are using this router for hand held operations think about a “D” handle, I have 40 routers and my PC 691 is my go to router most of the time.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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splintergroup

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#10 posted 04-12-2017 02:15 PM

I use three routers, a Milwaukee in the table, my first router (PC) for large work (both take 1/2” bits), and a Bosch Colt trim router for hand work. I’d get more if changing out common bits gets to be too much of a pain. I usually keep a small round over bit in the Colt, but occasionally switch to a hinge mortice bit. The Colt is not very friendly for changing bits.

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xeddog

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#11 posted 04-12-2017 04:42 PM

I have a few routers, but two used all the time. A 2.25HP Bosch in my router table, and a 2.25HP Milwaukee for hand held use. I also have a Bosch something-or-other that I bought for $10 that I have never used at all, an OLD PC 690 that is so old it has a metal case (also never used), and my very first router, and old PC 690. My favorite is the Milwaukee because it is the smoothest, quietest, and most comfortable in my hands. I would like to buy two more though. A second Milwaukee so I can have matching routers when using my Leigh dovetail jig, and a 3HP router motor for my table. Oh, and a small compact router set like the DeWalt.

Wayne

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MT_Stringer

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#12 posted 04-12-2017 05:59 PM

Just a retired guy staying busy slinging sawdust!

I have a pair of Bosch 1617EVSPK combo kits. The fixed base is mounted under my router table via Kreg insert plate (hole predrilled for through the top depth adjustment).

And a Triton 3 1/4 hp router mounted on the other end of the router table. It has through the top depth adjustment also. Same Kreg plate.

And a DeWalt D611 kit for trimming and other light duty stuff.

No complaint from any of them.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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ScottM

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#13 posted 04-12-2017 06:36 PM

I just have one router. :( A DeWalt DW618 with 3 bases; fixed in my table, a D handle, and plunge. If I need to use it hand held it pops out of the fixed/table with the push of a button. If I got another it would probably be just a compact model.

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canadianchips

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#14 posted 04-13-2017 11:53 AM

If the larger Bosch is anything like the Bosch colt I have it will be GOOD !
I have couple Dewalt routers in tables
I also have a Hitachi in a table
The handheld routers are random brands from Skil to Black and Decker…..alll have one bit and one purpose !
Routers are a slippery slope !
Enjoy !

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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BillyDoubleU

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#15 posted 04-13-2017 12:45 PM



If you are using this router for hand held operations think about a “D” handle, I have 40 routers and my PC 691 is my go to router most of the time.

- a1Jim


From the looks of it I may really need to have one for every bit and handle style :)

I assume the “D” handle really helps get a better purchase on the machine. Better for straight line cutting?

-- "But I’ve bought a big bat. I’m all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!” ~ Dr. Seuss

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