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Forum topic by Jimbo4 posted 04-11-2017 01:51 AM 1376 views 0 times favorited 47 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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04-11-2017 01:51 AM

Once again, the NRA is proud of itself.

-- When I was a kid I wanted to be older . . . . . this CRAP is not what I expected !


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#1 posted 04-11-2017 02:39 AM

????

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#2 posted 04-11-2017 02:50 AM

I agree with papadan, what’s your point/issue? Also what’s it got to do with woodworking?

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#3 posted 04-11-2017 03:11 AM

I can’t see why, they never do anything beneficial for society.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#4 posted 04-11-2017 01:11 PM

Not a gun guy but the NRA did a lot of good for sportsman and conservation until the mid 1970s when the turn most of their focus to politics. The earlier NRAs looking at shooting in a scientific way has made better safety training and marksmen training resulting in better shooters in the sportsman field and military field. Just in the sportmams feild that has helped conservation by less wounded animals and more found animals. Since the mid 1970s I don’t think they have done much besides show a organization can be a powerhouse in politics which I feel is part of the political issues we have. But now that is a whole different conversation and remember this is coming from a person who really could careless about firearms and went through two states firearm and hunter safety and education courses just to see what they was about to make a informed judgement.

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#5 posted 04-11-2017 01:26 PM

best one I remember was about 15 years ago. got calls day and night from NRA robo-callers telling me that US House bill ABC123 would prevent 50,000 veterans from buying hand guns. What they didn’t say was that the 50,000 vets had been give psych discharges(what they used to call Section 8) and were considered too crazy to carry a weapon.
on the ship, we would come up with lists of all sorts.
3 Scariest Things
1) an officer with a plan or an idea
2) red death(ground meat and tomato sauce) for the meat at meal time (served 4 times a day for 27 straight days)
3) a sailor with a gun

-- Scott just a tired old sailor glad to be home from the sea

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#6 posted 04-11-2017 04:07 PM

oldsailor59 – I had a cousin who was section 8. He hated the government for not being able to own a gun.

-- When I was a kid I wanted to be older . . . . . this CRAP is not what I expected !

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#7 posted 04-11-2017 06:48 PM

PM I got from Jimbo referenced yesterdays murder suicide in California. Still don’t know what that has to do with the NRA. I am trained and licensed to carry a gun and I do, but I do not belong to the NRA or any other gun or shooting club.

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#8 posted 04-11-2017 09:51 PM

It’s not just the NRA. The DMV should be very proud of itself for making 2016 the deadliest year on American roads in almost a decade. They are just as culpable for those deaths as the NRA is for a shooting — possibly more so, since the DMV issued the licenses for those to be driven. The NRA has no such control over gun owners.

Moreover, when will people wake up and see how the truck attacks in Sweden and France make it clear that we need to rid the roads of these weapons on wheels? The Nice attack alone killed 86 and wounded hundreds. Try doing that with a handgun.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#9 posted 04-11-2017 09:54 PM

Don’t know what this really has to do with the NRA.

The guy went to kill his wife and himself. two kids were hit.

Did, the NICS Background check missed something?

The weapon used is a .357 caliber revolver.

So not an assault weapon,

not a semi automatic handgun,

no magazine/clip with more than 8 rounds

Just a “regular six shooter” handgun, and a guy angry with his wife.

This is not anything like Sandy Hook or Columbine, or the other mass shootings.

The children involved is the tragedy.

-- “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” Mark Twain

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#10 posted 04-11-2017 10:07 PM



It s not just the NRA. The DMV should be very proud of itself for making 2016 the deadliest year on American roads in almost a decade. They are just as culpable for those deaths as the NRA is for a shooting — possibly more so, since the DMV issued the licenses for those to be driven. The NRA has no such control over gun owners.

Moreover, when will people wake up and see how the truck attacks in Sweden and France make it clear that we need to rid the roads of these weapons on wheels? The Nice attack alone killed 86 and wounded hundreds. Try doing that with a handgun.

- RichTaylor


That’s pretty funny, the NRA has more control over who is allowed to buy guns than the government. Especially with handguns. Every handgun death should be placed at their feet.

About 5 years ago I trained a guy from one of the flyover states, that was a certified NRA instructor, or so he told me. We had similar outlooks on rifles, many people in rural areas should/need to have them and even though I think someone like pappadon shouldn’t have one, I wouldn’t try to stop him.

When it came to handguns I was floored, he felt that most people shouldn’t be allowed to have handguns, anyone that used one for work should have a lifetime allowance, but anyone else needed to prove yearly they understood the use and responsibility of owning a handgun. He felt that most of the people he trained really didn’t get it at all.

cool thing is when the democrats get back into to power they won’t have to worry about the filibuster anymore and can restrict them all they want.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#11 posted 04-11-2017 10:10 PM

cool thing is when the democrats get back into to power they won t have to worry about the filibuster anymore and can restrict them all they want.

- RobS888


Suspect that will go down 5:4 in the supreme court.

I would agree if Garland had replaced Scalia.

-- “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” Mark Twain

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#12 posted 04-11-2017 10:40 PM


cool thing is when the democrats get back into to power they won t have to worry about the filibuster anymore and can restrict them all they want.

- RobS888

Suspect that will go down 5:4 in the supreme court.

I would agree if Garland had replaced Scalia.

- DrDirt


Yup, but they will have to fight each up to the SC, just allowing that one department to computerize its records could help slow down the gun sales.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#13 posted 04-11-2017 11:01 PM

i say sell a gun to anyone that wants one. Ammo and smokeless powder however will be considered Type A explosives, available in very small quantities after extreme vetting.
on firearm training, the US Marine Corps would spend 11 or 12 days, 8 to 10 hours a day, to teach a person how to ‘Properly” operate an M1 or M14 or M16

-- Scott just a tired old sailor glad to be home from the sea

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#14 posted 04-11-2017 11:36 PM

Works for me, make them get up close and personal if they want to kill someone.

About 9,000 people per year are murdered by guns and about 19,000 kill themselves. Americans are by far the deadliest killers of Americans. At this rate every generation will almost equal the Americans that were killed in WW2.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#15 posted 04-11-2017 11:40 PM

cool thing is when the democrats get back into to power they won t have to worry about the filibuster anymore and can restrict them all they want.

- RobS888

I don’t think you understand how government works.

The vote in the Senate to end the filibuster that Democrats made in 2013 was for judicial nominees, excluding Supreme Court nominees. This recent vote was to end it for Supreme Court nominees as well. The filibuster is still available for legislative votes in the Senate. The House does not have filibusters.

If I were you, I’d be worried about Ginsburg. Can she hang in there until 2021? Given too, that the court is 4/4 with Kennedy as a wild card, you should be rooting for him to hang in there too. If those seats go to constitutional originalists, you won’t be getting any of those restrictions you are drooling over. If anything, restrictions on Title II firearms will be eased or eliminated.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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