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Forum topic by ShemATC posted 04-10-2017 10:30 PM 635 views 0 times favorited 15 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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ShemATC

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04-10-2017 10:30 PM

I know there are tons of TS threads out there, but apparently even a few months makes a huge difference on whether saws and prices are out of date, so hopefully some new insight can guide me. A lot of comments mention “Saw x is only slightly more than saw y” and current prices are WAY higher, so it’s tough to follow.

My main use for a home shop TS will be primarily for cutting plywood for building sets/props for theater productions and the occasional project around the house. I already have a 10 s/c miter saw so the TS would be mostly for rip cuts. A rolling stand included with many of the “contractor” saws is not needed, and don’t want to pay a $100 premium for a stand I could easily make. I’m also limited to 120v with my current power configuration in my garage shop.

I had originally begun looking around the Dewalt dwe7480, figuring I could make a station for it for increased rip capacity/outfeed if I needed. Then (after reading way more TS topics then I could count) came across the recommendations for the Delta 36-725. A higher price point, but an overall better saw with better features including cutting capacity and dust collection than the dwe7480. Reading on (and noting some sagas of parts/problems with saws in the delta’s price point) saw some recommendations for the Grizzly G0771. Also a higher price point, but again a better saw, and a good value. Unfortunately that saw is now discontinued and replaced by G0771z which is more expensive (even though currently on sale, after shipping would be close to $900).

So my prices range from the dwe7480 around $380 to hopefully an upper limit of $700 (including any shipping). I think I could be willing to go with the Delta if not for some of the horror stories. I could deal with horror stories with the dwe7480 since it’s a lower price point. For $600 I really shouldn’t have to jump through hoops. Are there any other entry level cabinet saws like the G0771 (remember the g0771z is price way higher than the G0771 was) to look at? Should I go with the dwe7480 and just use the extra money to build myself a TS station with extra table space for capacity and outfeed?

Thank you in advance for any insight. My head is spinning from reading and re-reading reviews and posts about TS.


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WhyMe

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#1 posted 04-10-2017 10:45 PM

I think the good about the Delta 36-725 out weights the horror stories. When things go wrong you have a tendency to hear more about that than when things go right. I have the Delta 36-725 and have been totally pleased with the saw. Delta had issues with parts being available at first but I’m not aware that is an issue currently. So look at the negative reviews and the date they were posted.

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#2 posted 04-10-2017 10:57 PM

Personally, I own the Rigid table saw:

https://www.amazon.com/RIDGID-R4512-13-Amp-Cast-IronTable/dp/B0090LHEJA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1491864773&sr=8-2&keywords=ridgid+table+saw#customerReviews

Most of the critical reviews come from the setup, which can be kind of a pain, but it has a wonderful cast iron table with an aluminum fence that is easily adjustable. I bought a set of diablo blades for it and never utilized the factory blade. It cuts like a champ and is easily one of the better hybrid saws under 1000 bucks. Being newer than the competition, they still make a remarkably good product, unlike some of the dewalt parts I have experienced. Most of the problems I see in dewalt are the plastic parts they supplement. Rigid doesn’t have that problem yet.

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#3 posted 04-10-2017 11:50 PM

If you are just breaking down sheet goods may I suggest a track saw? Festool is the original but now most major manufacturers have one. I find bringing the track and saw to the piece is easier than brining the piece to the saw. That is why in my recent purchase I opted for a 30” fence.

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#4 posted 04-10-2017 11:57 PM

What he ^ said. Get a track saw and save the space. Makita and DeWalt are in that price point. Splurge and go Festool if you feel that the difference in quality is there.

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ShemATC

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#5 posted 04-11-2017 12:24 AM

I already have several diy circ saw guides, and is how I’ve been cutting sheet goods up until now. The dust created is crazy and even with a shop vac/dust deputy I have to cut everything outside of the garage if I don’t want a layer covering everything. Also ripping things already under 16-24 inches can be a little nerve racking.

I’d also rather not spend $600 to cut wood the same way I already am.

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#6 posted 04-11-2017 12:44 AM

Track saws have fantastic dust collection as compared to circular saws. I have the lesser cheapo $179’ish Grizzly/Sheppac version. With my shop vac as the dust collection, it does rather well. And that is without the fancy modifications to enhance dust collection even more.
What about craigslist for a used delta unisaw or such for $400-$500 ?

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patcollins

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#7 posted 04-11-2017 01:02 AM

FYI the Dewalt 7491 is actually quite a bit larger than the 7480, the $120 extra isn’t juts for the stand.

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#8 posted 04-11-2017 01:09 AM

My opinion is that the DWE7480 is too small to be an effective plywood ripping tool. There are several choices for contractor’s saws that are $700 or less and I recommend you take a look at those. You will also need an outfeed table if you are going to use the saw by yourself.

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ShemATC

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#9 posted 04-11-2017 01:28 AM



My opinion is that the DWE7480 is too small to be an effective plywood ripping tool. There are several choices for contractor s saws that are $700 or less and I recommend you take a look at those. You will also need an outfeed table if you are going to use the saw by yourself.

- ArtMann

Outfeed table is a given, just going to depend on what size of one needed with what ever saw I go with.

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ShemATC

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#10 posted 04-11-2017 01:29 AM


What about craigslist for a used delta unisaw or such for $400-$500 ?

- Holbs

Aren’t most of those multiphase or 220v?

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#11 posted 04-11-2017 03:26 AM

Most of the old delta cabinet saws I’ve seen around here are 220, but there’s a lot of 110 volt saws out there. If you can wait the older unisaws are great saws. I had a 36-725 before I found my old unisaw and loved it. I really hated to get rid of it. If you like the 36-725 delta saw buy it you won’t be sorry, like I said they are great saws. I’ve found over time most people or a lot of people get mad at a company and regardless of what happened they bash their products even if they didn’t even buy it. You never get to see the company’s side of the story. Anyway good luck which ever way you go.
Gerald

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#12 posted 04-11-2017 04:41 AM

What about craigslist for a used delta unisaw or such for $400-$500 ?
- Holbs
Aren’t most of those multiphase or 220v?
- ShemATC

Not the new Unisaws, but older ones (pre-2007 or thereabouts) can frequently be found with 1.5hp single phase motors, capable of being run on a standard 120v outlet. Not as common, there are also 1hp and 3/4hp machines out there, and while I have never seen one, they even offered a 1/2hp motor for them at one point :)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#13 posted 04-11-2017 09:40 AM

The best reason to buy a portable saw is to utilize the portability, not because of the price point. If price is pushing you in that direction, you’d be far better off with a used full size saw with a belt drive induction motor than a small plastic saw with a direct drive universal motor….so much more potential and room for growth, and the landing zone in front of the blade is a lot bigger. Even with a TS station the portables have more limitations, are louder, less reliable, harder to fix, etc.

I have some concerns with the Delta and the Ridgid, but both are returnable if there’s a problem. If you think you might catch the woodworking bug, I’d rather cry once and get a good hybrid like the G0771Z.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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ShemATC

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#14 posted 04-17-2017 09:27 PM

Ok, So I guess (unless I find a random Lowes with a 36-725 in stock or on the floor) I’ll be going for the Rigid R4512. I can’t bring myself to jump up budget wise to the next level, which is the $800+ range for the grizzly or others.

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#15 posted 04-17-2017 09:38 PM

Ok, So I guess (unless I find a random Lowes with a 36-725 in stock or on the floor) I ll be going for the Rigid R4512. I can t bring myself to jump up budget wise to the next level, which is the $800+ range for the grizzly or others.
- ShemATC

Most stores can order the saw and you pick it up a few days later. Have you asked them? Might also be worth a call/e-mail to Delta to see if they can point you to one of their ‘selected retailers’ in the area. I would avoid a floor model unless they give you a really good discount. They are usually assembled in a hurry, have had a lot of people ‘kick the tires’ on them, and frequently missing parts/accessories.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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