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Forum topic by NBeener posted 10-26-2010 09:43 PM 3067 views 1 time favorited 41 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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NBeener

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10-26-2010 09:43 PM

I built this wine rack from an older (70’s?) woodworking book:

I love it … except.

The plans called for the REAR support to be higher than the FRONT support.

But that angle causes/allows the bottles to SLIP, and … the way the plans were designed … there IS enough room for the back of the bottle to actually FALL if it does slip.

Not good. Very noisy. Very expensive. Ruins the party.

Temporarily, I’ve cut strips of old bicycle inner tubes and SET them into the rear cradles. But I don’t like this, as a long-term solution.

No real interest in re-building the thing—either to make it shallower, front to back OR to level the supports, front and back.

I’m thinking about options that simply give better grip:

- 3M traction tape ?
- Friction tape ?
- Anti-slip paint additive, mixed into shellac, applied to the cradles ?
- A bead of silicon caulk that would dry tacky and stay tacky ?

Humorous options:

- Bubble gum, already chewed ?
- [with credit to George Carlin] Snot—the Universal Rubber Cement ???


Any thoughts ?

For now, the thing sits empty, because I can’t trust it.

TIA!

-- -- Neil


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Rustic

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#1 posted 10-26-2010 09:54 PM

I would try a lower angle for the back or shorten the hole in the front piece

-- www.carvingandturningsbyrick.com, Rick Kruse, Grand Rapids, MI

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JJohnston

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#2 posted 10-26-2010 09:58 PM

Do you have to be able to see the cork all the time? If not, cut 4 thin pieces the same width (the full width) and length of the front rails and glue them onto the fronts of each rail. This will act as a stop to keep the bottles from sliding forward. It doesn’t HAVE to be the full width, but it will look less “added-on” if it is.

Or,

Rout a half-round groove about 1/4” wide along the rails, right through U-shaped cutouts, and glue in a dowel to act as a stop. Or rout a rabbet along the top edge and use a stop piece with a square cross section. Or just slap the stop right on the surface of the rail without letting it in.

Or,

Deepen all the rear cradles to reduce the angle (last resort).

-- "Sometimes even now, when I'm feeling lonely and beat, I drift back in time, and I find my feet...Down on Main Street." - Bob Seger

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ellen35

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#3 posted 10-26-2010 10:01 PM

I would empty the rack… the fun way!!! Drink it all and beg for refills from friends!
Actually, I’d make it a tad narrower from front to back so that the bottle will rest on the collar.
Or… dress up the back rail inserts with decorative cork.

-- "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good." Voltaire

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PurpLev

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#4 posted 10-26-2010 10:02 PM

My first thought is – go back in time and talk to the editor of that book!

second though – snot dries and won’t work very well

third though – cheers!

unless you want to redo this – I’d glue drawer liners to the back hollows:

But if it were me – I’d just redo the rack, or try to take it apart and fix the angle issue. the angle in the book is probably unreal. the reason for the angle is to keep the air bubble in the bottle away from the cork. during storage, the cork should be kept in full contact with the liquid so that it is kept from drying and cracking.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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SPalm

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#5 posted 10-26-2010 10:02 PM

Just add a thin strip of wood to the front where the cork end of the bottles protrude, to keep them from protruding too far, and going boom.

Half way covering the cork should do, then you can still see some of the foil from the front.

Steve

Edit: I see JJohnston already posted this idea as I was typing. I need to learn to type faster.

-- -- I'm no rocket surgeon

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CharlieM1958

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#6 posted 10-26-2010 10:05 PM

I like JJohnston’s suggestion of a stop in front of the bottles.

It seems like a rather odd design. I understand the point of a slight forward slope to ensure that the cork stays wet, but it seems like the front support should have been closer to the point where the bottle becomes wider. That way the shape of the bottle itself would have prevented it from sliding forward.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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Bovine

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#7 posted 10-26-2010 10:07 PM

I don’t think the friction tape or addative would work with the glass bottles. The first thing I thought of was a small lip on the front that partially covered the holes where the bottle top sits. That would keep it from sliding forward, but might not work as well with odd-shaped bottles.

You could also just epoxy the bottles to the rack which would also help any potential drinking problems. :P

-- Kansas City, KS "Nothing is as permanent as a temporary solution"

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CharlieM1958

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#8 posted 10-26-2010 10:11 PM

Or, you could just trash the whole thing and stick to that good wine that comes in a box.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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JJohnston

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#9 posted 10-26-2010 10:13 PM

Dumb idea: if it doesn’t absolutely need to be plumb, how about lop some off the back legs so it leans back?

-- "Sometimes even now, when I'm feeling lonely and beat, I drift back in time, and I find my feet...Down on Main Street." - Bob Seger

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Dennisgrosen

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#10 posted 10-26-2010 10:16 PM

Neil
consider this to bee a lesson learned and make a new one after you have
read , seen how they are soported/build in the real fancy winecellers :-)
this design look somehow werd to me

Dennis

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David Craig

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#11 posted 10-26-2010 10:16 PM

One option that might require a bit of control to make it look decent is to apply some liquid latex to the areas where the bottles are seated. I would definitely test brush strokes on scrap first. Of course, if your collection consists of Mad Dog 20/20 and Boones, just throw them in the fridge and turn it into a shoe rack :)

David

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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KayBee

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#12 posted 10-26-2010 10:23 PM

I think Ellen’s idea to keep emptying it sounds great. You can try taking a little off the back legs to correct the angle. It might be easiest to add some floor glides/levelers to the front legs though. Then all you have to do is drill two holes, put in some t-nuts and screw the levelers in. I’ve seen low profile ones, so only you and us LJs would know : 0

-- Karen - a little bit of stupid goes a long way

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grizzman

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#13 posted 10-26-2010 10:36 PM

i like the drawer liner idea…very easy fix and with a good color it would look great..or do as ellen suggests..or quit drinking wine and put some wooden extenders in there and fill the thing with bottles of mountain dew…lol…what…...hey the dew is good stuff..that fizz sure pack a whollup…

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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Eric_S

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#14 posted 10-26-2010 11:25 PM

I think Ellen has the best idea so far lol.

Perhaps though you can just tweak it and still make it look nice and no one would think anything of it. If you don’t care to show the bottle corks or top wrappers, you could just glue 4 strips of wood(without any grooves cut to same size as front rails) that would be glued to the outward face of each front rail, preventing the bottles from sliding forward at all. I think this wont take much away from the look at all since you can still see those grooves from a standing view.

[EDIT]: I should have read ALL the other posts first. It looks like Steve and JJohnston already suggests this.

-- - Eric Indianapolis, IN

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John Ormsby

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#15 posted 10-26-2010 11:36 PM

You need to shorten the distance between the front and rear. This type of storage rack is supposed to be able to set the start of the neck of the bottle against the inside edge of the front piece. It just ahs too much of a gap. Should be very easy to do.

-- Oldworld, Fair Oaks, Ca

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