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pontic

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04-04-2017 04:33 PM

I need a Retrofitting riving knife. One that will fit my’02 JTAS 10” saw
Does anyone know of a manufacture that does make one?
BORK?
Shark?

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sras

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#1 posted 04-04-2017 04:45 PM

A bolt on riving knife by BORK is the only one I have found – and his site says they are not shipping due to an illness. Hopefully it is short term…

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#2 posted 04-04-2017 07:12 PM

$150 for a BORK? What a ripoff. This is an example of selling a bill of goods; convince the public they can’t work safely without a riving knife. A riving knife may be a nice touch, but not an absolute necessity. The same thing can be attained with a small wedge inserted into the kerf, something that has been done for the past 100+ years; and if you are handy, you can make your own riving knife out of a scrap of metal and a little ingenuity.

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AHuxley

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#3 posted 04-04-2017 07:33 PM



$150 for a BORK? What a ripoff. This is an example of selling a bill of goods; convince the public they can t work safely without a riving knife. A riving knife may be a nice touch, but not an absolute necessity. The same thing can be attained with a small wedge inserted into the kerf, something that has been done for the past 100+ years; and if you are handy, you can make your own riving knife out of a scrap of metal and a little ingenuity.

- MrRon

There is a difference between a riving knife and a splitter.

Safety is one of the issues I find odd that it is so divisive, people drove for decades without the safety features cars have today but the reality is cars are safer today. A riving knife helps with safety and is quicker and easier to employ than other options that accomplish the same task.

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runswithscissors

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#4 posted 04-05-2017 04:44 AM

Check with Shark Guard. Lee has a new splitter that replaces the OE splitter, and is designed to be adjusted vertically so that it stays at the same elevation, and quite close to, the blade. He has a video demo of it on his website. Looks quite robust. Had I not already made my own riving knife for my Unisaw, I would have gone with Lee’s design.

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rwe2156

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#5 posted 04-05-2017 01:39 PM

Very doubtful you can retrofit a riving knife it is incorporated into the trunnion.

I recommend a either MicroJig or a homemade splitter.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#6 posted 04-05-2017 03:00 PM

My observation is that people have tendency to praise what they have and shame what they don’t. If a person does not own a Mercedes he tends to claim that it is waste of money. People who own it swear by it.

Ask any older Unisaw owner here and most probably than not you will get an answer that a riving knife is just a fancy splitter.

There is a difference between a riving knife and a splitter.

Safety is one of the issues I find odd that it is so divisive, people drove for decades without the safety features cars have today but the reality is cars are safer today. A riving knife helps with safety and is quicker and easier to employ than other options that accomplish the same task.

- AHuxley


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#7 posted 04-05-2017 05:22 PM


Safety is one of the issues I find odd that it is so divisive, people drove for decades without the safety features cars have today but the reality is cars are safer today. A riving knife helps with safety and is quicker and easier to employ than other options that accomplish the same task.
- AHuxley


People drove for decades without the safety features we now have, but people also knew what they were driving. They knew how the car worked and drove accordingly. Today “smart” cars are taking away man’s ability to be the master. The machines now dictate. We no longer need to understand or know how a car works. I feel this makes the driving experience less safe because we are depending 100% in the car keeping us safe. When I drive, I want to be in control. I don’t want the car to do the driving for me.

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AHuxley

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#8 posted 04-05-2017 05:59 PM


I feel this makes the driving experience less safe because we are depending 100% in the car keeping us safe. When I drive, I want to be in control. I don t want the car to do the driving for me.

- MrRon

Statistically, you are simply wrong. I have spent my life tracking and racing cars as well as teaching high-performance driving at HPDEs and while I am a second or two faster on the track (in a street car) with all the electronic nannies turned off I would never turn them off on the street and don’t know another highly capable driver that would, it would just be silly. Even the best drivers outside of a track leave the nannies on because they know in an emergency situation on the road the nannies are smarter and quicker than they are. Further, ABS and TC are banned in most formulae of racing since they can be tuned to make even the professional drivers faster. In the end people THINK they are better than electronics but they almost always aren’t.

Safety is a personal choice and the level is sometimes dictated by ones pocketbook but even the most careful can benefit from added layers of safety.

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bigblockyeti

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#9 posted 04-05-2017 06:01 PM


I feel this makes the driving experience less safe because we are depending 100% in the car keeping us safe. When I drive, I want to be in control. I don t want the car to do the driving for me.

- MrRon

I completely agree with the exception of people who don’t know how to drive which in OH anyway is > 50% of those with a license. Some folks even have to blow in a breathalyzer before their car can start, and these people are legally allowed on the road, driving something heavier than a Schwinn!

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pontic

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#10 posted 04-05-2017 06:15 PM

THe Bork doesnot retract with the blade automatically, neither does the Shark. I think I will get the Bork.
In the mean time I will have to realize the extra caution I have to take when using the saw. Especially when cutting smaller square sheet goods which I now use my splitter for.

-- Illigitimii non carburundum sum

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#11 posted 04-05-2017 06:31 PM


THe Bork doesnot retract with the blade automatically, neither does the Shark. I think I will get the Bork.
In the mean time I will have to realize the extra caution I have to take when using the saw. Especially when cutting smaller square sheet goods which I now use my splitter for.

- pontic

Unlike a splitter, the BORK does indeed raise and lower with the blade. It’ll fall below the insert with the blade, and raise back above when the blade is raised. There is an adjustment for where it sits relative to the blade, but it definitely goes and down with the blade.


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pontic

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#12 posted 04-05-2017 10:40 PM

Didn’t know that. Thanks. Is that a jet you are showing the bork on? does it come with instructions?

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