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Forum topic by shimster posted 10-25-2010 02:25 AM 1066 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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shimster

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10-25-2010 02:25 AM

Topic tags/keywords: r4511 shop set-up

So, i’m about to set up my new shop in our basement, and I’m going to end up with about 7’-2”+ ceilings to bottom of ceiling joists. What tools would you LJ’ers recommend to start out my shop with and in what order to start out? A few things to consider:

My first planned project: I hope to be walnut veneered bookshelves with solid edge banding (very modern/ 90 degree detailing here) These would be adjustable, etc.

What I have currently: Just about every hand (power) tool I could ever need (grinder, hand held planer, circular saw, routers, impact drill/ driver, chop saw, jig saw, palm sander, compressor, finish nail guns, Kreg jig, table saw (R4511 NIB, that will be unpacked/ setup once floor is poured). Plan on executing an integral router table for the R4511 once i get up & running. Can’t wait to post!
What I don’t have but may need soon:
Sliding compound miter, belt sander, drill press, edger, planer, dust collection, multiple pipe clamps: QTY?, work bench (DIY?). Would love to get into hand work some day, but currently don’t have the time with day job, so mostly power tools for now.

I don’t plan on ‘milling’ a lot of my own wood, but did just score the mother load of reclaimed beams/ wide pine from a historic post & beam structure I’m renovating, so perhaps a hand held metal detector for nail removal?

Also, and lastly, just disengaged our former 220v kitchen range, and switched to LP. Now have that circuit and feed available to run the R4511 on 220v. Advantages?

Thanks everyone! Stay warm.

-- Less is More.....expensive


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PurpLev

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#1 posted 10-25-2010 02:49 AM

hmm, sounds like you already have everything you NEED to make your first project and then some.

Of your list of ‘may need soon’ the only things I could see as necessities are dust collection (esp. if you will be in the basement under the house) and the clamps.

Workbench should be on your list of projects as it will make work much easier to handle when the workpiece is at the right height and is held properly allowing you to use both hands.

EDIT: as for advantage for converting your TS for 220 – you won’t get any more power from this. the saw will still cut just the same and with the same power limitations. it WILL however start faster, and run more efficiently (in terms of power on the electric lines). If I had 1 220v line available – I’d use it to drive a powerful cyclone DC rather than my TS (since I have the same 4511 TS) although It would also make me consider upgrading the TS to a 3HP model which would then require a 220v line.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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richgreer

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#2 posted 10-25-2010 03:06 AM

I don’t know your budget situation but you may be tempted to buy a collection of cheaper power tools to get started. In general, I advise against this with a couple of exceptions.

Some small, cheap tools can still serve a purpose after you buy bigger, more expensive tools like them. For example, I find that a small bench top drill press does about 90% of what I need done. I bought one early on and later I bought a larger floor mounted drill press. The smaller one still serves a purpose so it was not money wasted. The same principle may apply to bandsaws.

By contrast, I once bought a small, cheap bench top jointer. It was worthless and I discarded it when I got a bigger, better jointer. Money spent on the cheap one was wasted money.

PurpLev, as always, is right about the dust collection, clamps and the workbench.

What you need depends on what you want to do, but I would put some priority on a router table. Whenever I can, I prefer to work with a router in a table as opposed to hand held. Making your own router table is not that hard and you will gain some skills in the process.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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shimster

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#3 posted 10-25-2010 03:11 AM

Thanks Sharon. Would love to start with something ‘sexier’ than dust collection, but you’re right, since under our living area in a 160 year old house, I’ll need to manage this right off the bat. I’m a huge MDF fan as well which won’t help.

-- Less is More.....expensive

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NathanAllen

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#4 posted 10-25-2010 09:28 PM

Dust Collection
Air Filtration
Jointer
Planer
Band Saw

Though until you transition to integrating hard wood to mdf/ply you really won’t use the Jointer/Planer significantly.

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Dan

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#5 posted 10-25-2010 10:08 PM

I would start with a good sized work bench. You can use cheap 2×4s and mdf to make a very solid and nice work bench. I would get at least 4 pipe clamps as well as some bar clamps and other misc clamps.

A shop vac will work well enough for now but if you get a planer and other larger power tools you will want to look into a larger DC unit.

The drill press and planer would be at the top of my list. I use my drill press a lot more then I ever thought I would when I bought it. Look for used stuff if you are on budget. I got a really nice Delta floor model drill press off CraigsList for 100 dollars. Cant beat that. It works great.

I also wanted to comment on your thoughts on hand tools. You say that you don’t have the time but in reality there are times when you can do things faster by hand then you can with any power tool. I was NEVER interested in using hand tools until I ran into a wall and had no choice but to do something by hand. I have been hooked ever since. There are a few hand tools that I would say I use just about every time I am working in the shop and they are my block plane, pull saw and chisels. I mostly use them for odds and end cuts and touch ups but they often save me a lot of time. These hand tools can also cut down your sanding time by a ton. Would keep a lot of that dust out of your basement :)

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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shimster

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#6 posted 10-27-2010 04:22 AM

Thanks fellas. Perusing craigslist as we speak! I’m thinking a small mobile dust collection to start followed by a bar clamp set followed by a benchtop drill press.

-- Less is More.....expensive

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