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b2rtch

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10-24-2010 04:39 PM

Yesterday I designed and build a device to handle any sheet of plywood, MDF, particle board, sheet rock, sheet metal or any other large and cumbersome piece one person, no lifting and with ease.
I pick the sheet of 3/4” plywood in the rack (vertical) and I swing flat on my work table or table saw easily , one person with no lifting .
The same device can be used to put the sheet back in the rack
In addition I use the device on my table saw as an in feed table
The same device can be used to unload or load a truck or a trailer, one person no lifting.
I cannot say much about it because I want to try to sale the idea to someone.

-- Bert


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#1 posted 10-24-2010 04:49 PM

Sounds great Bert, Good luck on your marketing of this great idea.

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#2 posted 10-24-2010 05:37 PM

If it’s something the average woodworker can build, you could sell the plans. If not, check with companies like Rockler and Lee Valley. I’d like to have something like that in our shop; would make it a lot easier to manipulate large sheets of material, for sure.

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#3 posted 10-24-2010 06:39 PM

rick3ddd, this is not that at all.
I believe that my idea could be sold for around $150.00 and it is much more versatile than the cart above.

-- Bert

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#4 posted 10-24-2010 07:20 PM

I would patent the design before divulging any more info on a public forum.
just my 2c

-- Woodworkers theory of relativity - the quality of your scrap is relative to your skill level

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#5 posted 10-24-2010 07:32 PM

bert, if you’re interested in finding someone to manufacture and sell you idea – LJ may not be your audience of choice. you’d have to contact the mfg. Grizzly, rockler, woodcraft, lee valley, Jet (WMH) etc. as suggested – If this is a fully developed idea and you can prove that it works – it would be best to patent it before going public with it.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#6 posted 10-24-2010 07:50 PM

Bert, your best bet is to do a patent search first, to look for what is called “prior art”. If yours looks too much like what is out there already, it’ll not be granted a patent.

beewood, I wonder why the tune “Trust in Me” as sung by Kaa from the Jungle Book is in my head, now?

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#7 posted 10-24-2010 09:02 PM

Patent it Bert. Then if it is patentable come forward and ask for quotes for a build.

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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#8 posted 10-24-2010 10:13 PM

I just check the patent office web site, it costs about $800.00 to patent anything , with out talking about the hassle.
Do I want to do that?

-- Bert

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#9 posted 10-24-2010 10:37 PM

I agree, if its that good of an idea you should patent it first. Millions have been made off of stupid stuff that a patent was put on. I would like to know more myself but understand your concerns in not giving to much away. If nothing else at least you found a good solution to your problem. Hope things work out for you as the for its cost $150.00 would certainly be in my price range to purchase.

-- I don't make mistakes, I have great learning lessons, Greg

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#10 posted 10-24-2010 11:13 PM

I know at least a couple people who have designed things like a home shop wood drying kiln and a wood framed bandsaw that just sell their plans on a wood working forum.

In the manufacturing world it’s dog eat dog. You can rarely be competetive with domestic manufacturing and if you go to China you can have things made for 1/10 the cost of domestic, even including freight, but they totally ignore patents and copyrights. A succesfull product will be knocked off with absolutely no risk.

India is not much better. The company I work for has a product that was copied by a manufacturer in India. They were selling it here in the USA as being exactly the same as our product but at half the cost. We have spent millions of $ on lawyers any finally got a temporary rulling from the international trade commission that keeps the other company from importing their product into the USA. The legal battle is ongoing, however. We won’t even consider letting a Chinese company manufacture our products for the same reasons.

-- Michael: Hillary has a long list of accomplishments, though most DAs would refer to them as felonies.

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#11 posted 10-25-2010 12:48 AM

Laws and laywers have worked heir magic to make intellictual rights too costly for the average person and as a result have blunted creativiity.

If it cost millions to protect what is rightlfully yours and you have no recourse to recover your damages then you are bust. The lawyers are not. To me, there is something wrong with that picture.

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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#12 posted 10-25-2010 05:34 AM

If it is that good an idea, and you plan to develop the idea, then you do need to file for a patent. Usually funds are available for a really good idea that has commerical value. Finding the money to develop the idea is not the problem. Having a really good idea, I mean a really really good idea is the problem. You can always have a prospective investor sign a non disclosure letter. It’s pretty much standard practice.

-- Better woodworking through old hand tools.

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#13 posted 10-25-2010 12:06 PM

I have contacted all the main wood working sellers ( Grizzly, Rockler, Woodcraft, HF and others ) to ask them if they would be interested by my idea.
Now I jut wait to see what happen.
How good is my idea?
I think it is a very good idea as it solved my issue handling all these panels for a very little price and that it is very easy to build.
In my shop it took me one day to build it, from scratch and my cost in addition to my initial investment is about $30.00.
I hesitate going through the hassle to patent my idea, I would rather sale idea.

-- Bert

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#14 posted 10-25-2010 03:25 PM

Not to be a downer here, but if you can’ build your project in a single day but it would cost $150 to sell it, why wouldn’t individuals just look at the plans and come up with their own homemade versions? There are a TON of examples like the homemade cyclones and the kerfmaker to name a couple, but people won’t usually shell out much money for an items that they think they can build (and tweak) themselves.

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#15 posted 10-25-2010 03:46 PM

I do not expect to make a huge amount of money, in fact my deal with who might be interested would be ‘a little money now, and free tools for life”.
If no one is interested then I shall give my, very simple, plan.
I am not greedy and I already have a very good income, praise God.

-- Bert

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