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Karda

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03-30-2017 06:31 AM

This is the set up i made for sharpening roughing gouge and skews works ok for spindle gouges as well. Is there a jig I can use with this sander as it is. others I have seen involve an extended tool rest. and it is a pain to replace the tool rest every time I want to sharpen a tool. I looked at utube and every body uses a grinder.


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Bmezz

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#1 posted 03-30-2017 12:40 PM

Don’t like the sound of a bowel gouge.

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#2 posted 03-30-2017 12:43 PM

If re-design your jig only have to move the V-block. Or look into making your own Ellsworth or Vari-grind jig so can adjust bevel angle. Ability to move the tool holder in & out essential for sharpening different turning tools. Ellsworth & Vari-grind jigs great for bowl & spindle gouges.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/32580797279033149/

Really not much out there for sharpening with a belt sander unless design your own jigs that work for you. Folks use both narrow & wide belt sanders to sharpen their tools. Might take a look at jigs made for Sorby sharpening system and see if that helps.

https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/93/4220/Robert-Sorby-Pro-Edge-Sharpening-System-6-Piece-Set

I used to free hand sharpen with my hand held belt sander mounted in homemade tool holder for short time until bought a bench grinder made some homemade tool rest & jigs before buying wolverine system. That was more than 20 years ago!

-- Bill

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TheDane

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#3 posted 03-30-2017 01:41 PM

Several years ago, HorizontalMike and I both built jigs that can do what you want.

My system is long gone (got a Wolverine system as a retirement gift), but I think Mike is still using his. Here is his review: http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/3179

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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Karda

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#4 posted 03-30-2017 08:50 PM

what I am doing know is rolling my gouges back and for it works so far, can I do the same with a bowl gouge. Can I use the jig I have in the picture or do I need an Ellsworth style jig. The review mike did is why I got the sander instead of a Grider, but to do it his way you would have to take off the extended tool rest to do skews and roughing gouges

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Harryn

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#5 posted 03-30-2017 08:50 PM

Bowel gouge? Try Ex-Lax.

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Karda

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#6 posted 03-30-2017 08:51 PM

is it relay that bad

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HorizontalMike

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#7 posted 03-30-2017 09:03 PM

Thank Gerry! You beat me to the post… Today alone, I had to sharpen my 1/2in, and /34in. Versa Lathe Chisels, and my 7/8in gouge, before turning a couple of handplane knobs out of Honduran Rosewood (heavy/dense & hard). I spent less than a minute each doing so. After all these years I am still on my original twisted belt, and only my 3rd sanding belt (180-grit).

Karda, I used a piece of T-Track to make an extended adjustment tool holder. Works like a champ. BTW, you might consider ditching the disc sanding wheel for a buffing wheel too.

EDIT: I have gotten lazy and don’t even set up the extended tool rest. It only changes my angle slightly and I don’t notice anything different.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#8 posted 03-30-2017 10:45 PM

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Karda

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#9 posted 03-30-2017 10:47 PM

Hi, Mike I have thought about a buffing wheel or something I can use for my carving tools but I can’t get the wheel off, I had a hard time getting it on. could you explain more about the T Track

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Blake Haskins

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#10 posted 03-30-2017 10:59 PM

I have the same sander, here is the set up I use, for the bowl gouge I have piece that it sticks out for a home-made adjuster thing to sit on.

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#11 posted 03-30-2017 11:04 PM

I’ve heard of bum gouge (bad information), but never bowel gouge. I guess it’s got some deeper meaning.

Sorry, I just turned 50 and am still going on 15.

-- She asked me, "Who are you going to please with that?" I said, "Me."

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#12 posted 03-30-2017 11:09 PM

Looks like a winner Blake

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Karda

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#13 posted 03-30-2017 11:19 PM

thanks, would slanting the sander make the jig work more like a grinding wheel

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HorizontalMike

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#14 posted 03-31-2017 01:08 PM



Hi, Mike I have thought about a buffing wheel or something I can use for my carving tools but I can t get the wheel off, I had a hard time getting it on. could you explain more about the T Track

- Karda

Follow the link and scroll down to where it shows how I surface mounted the T-Track and dado’d the block to fit over it.
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/3179

You will also need something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Eazypower-81042-Adaptor-Thread-1-Pack/dp/B000BPOOII
NOTE: I did this ~4yr ago, and if I recall correctly, I remember having to shim the motor adapter to get it to work. MacGyver style, as you will have to fabricate some of this.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#15 posted 03-31-2017 01:45 PM



Don t like the sound of a bowel gouge.

- Bmezz


I needed a laugh this morning. :-D

-- Steve

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