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Forum topic by John146 posted 03-29-2017 05:21 PM 400 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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03-29-2017 05:21 PM

Topic tags/keywords: bandsaw

I’m still looking for a bandsaw – mainly for resawing. I found this today – is this a good deal? how much would a replacement table cost, and is it available? can I repair the existing one? Is it worth a 2hr drive just to see it?

-- John 14:6


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#1 posted 03-29-2017 05:27 PM

Probably a trunnion bracket or something. I’d buy it.

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#2 posted 03-29-2017 05:30 PM

Doesn’t look like the table is broken to me… more like the trunnions, which are sort of a weak spot. Usually they get broken with people trying to move/lift the saw by the table, or even more common, trying to transport the saw with the table still on it. It only takes removing two handwheels to take the table off. Fortunately, replacement trunnions are readily available and not too expensive. You can get a pair of them at the Sawcenter for about $45 for example.

At $125, figure another $100 or so to address the trunnions, replace the bearings, perhaps tires, a belt and a new blade. I always like looking at the price at the end of the road, not the beginning, so you would be buying it for at least $250 provided there isn’t anything else needed. Certainly worth taking a look at in person.

Cheers,
Brad

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#3 posted 03-29-2017 05:35 PM

$250 still isn’t bad, compared to the $400+ used or the $650+ new price tags on the models I’ve been looking at.

I don’t need one immediately yet, so I can wait to repair it. I’ve contacted him asking what the model of the BS is. I’m guessing it’s a pretty good BS because of the closed cabinet?

Is a trunnion basically a mounting bracket which can be replaced with normal tools? Would I need to do any kind of welding or metalworking?

-- John 14:6

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#4 posted 03-29-2017 05:42 PM

I’ve contacted him asking what the model of the BS is. I’m guessing it’s a pretty good BS because of the closed cabinet?

Realistically, there are only two different Delta cast iron band saws… one that is designed for wood only, and one designed for wood/metal. The only difference between them is one has a gear box for multiple speeds. The catalog number is mostly irrelevant, and changes depending on stuff like what size motor it had or what base it was mounted on when it left the factory. The saw is identical, and the only difference between an open or closed stand is really just looks and perhaps slightly more weight.

Is a trunnion basically a mounting bracket which can be replaced with normal tools? Would I need to do any kind of welding or metalworking?

They are bolted onto the bottom of the table with three bolts each… so if you have a wrench, you are set. Here is what they look like under the table:

If it’s not the trunnions, and is the cast iron trunnion bracket instead, then you are looking at a potentially much more expensive fix. Cast iron bits typically cost a lot more :)

Only way to know what exactly is broken or needs fixing is to go look at it. Don’t let OWWM Rule #5 bite you. Have the guy send you some pictures of what is broken, so you can decide if it’s worth the drive or not to go look at it. Most sellers can’t describe the machine or it’s condition/problems correctly, even when it is sitting in front of them (OWWM Rule #1)!

Cheers,
Brad

PS: If you get a serial number, you can date it.

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#5 posted 03-29-2017 06:16 PM


If it s not the trunnions, and is the cast iron trunnion bracket instead, then you are looking at a potentially much more expensive fix. Cast iron bits typically cost a lot more :)

Only way to know what exactly is broken or needs fixing is to go look at it. Don t let OWWM Rule #5 bite you.

More importantly, I’m not sure if the parts would be available. I’ve heard stories about how it’s difficult to get Delta replacement parts (maybe that’s not the case about BSs?).

Does the $100-$150 for any table-related repairs sound like the upper limit? It would seem like tires and blades would be an expense for any used BS, so I figure in another $100 (max).

I only worry because it’s a long drive to view it – so if I go see it and it isn’t good, I lose the 4-5 hours of the round trip and $40-50 in gas

-- John 14:6

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#6 posted 03-29-2017 06:29 PM

Parts availability is not really a problem… you can find them on the bay, various aftermarket suppliers, buy/sell/trade forums like over at the OWWM site, etc… And in a lot of cases, parts from clone machines will work as well. Parts directly from Delta is hit or miss, but for those machines that were made for decades, there is a healthy supply elsewhere. You can read about the parts situation from Delta here: Delta Parts Availabilty?

Another alternative would be to take it to a welding shop and have it brazed… would be a bit ugly, but probably not a lot of cash needed, and nobody but you would notice it anyway.

How much it will cost depends on where you get it from… I’ve seen those brackets selling for several hundred dollars on the bay, and I’ve seen them selling for $25. What you spend is up to you and how much time and effort you are willing to exert, and what you happen to run across doing so :) An extra $100-$150 would be a good range, and if you can find one cheaper, even better. It’s always better to over-estimate anticipated costs, rather than under-estimate them.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#7 posted 03-29-2017 07:45 PM

Now I just need to wait for him to reply and hope he’s not already sold it to someone else… CL has been frustrating.. though I did get a 22-560 Planer for $115 a few weeks ago.

-- John 14:6

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